I'm interested in composing a list of allotropes of carbon that are digestible so that I can study the evolution of the organisms that can digest carbon.

Can someone provide a list of those allotropes that are digestible and the organisms that can digest them.

Well this isn't a list of digestable allotropes, however it is a list of the allotropes of carbon.  More than i was originally aware of, so i've learnt something new from this. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotropes_of_carbon

On the topic of which are digestible i'd go for none of them.

oh_noes wrote on Dec 25^th, 2009 at 4:08pm:

I'm interested in composing a list of allotropes of carbon that are digestible so that I can study the evolution of the organisms that can digest carbon. Can someone provide a list of those allotropes that are digestible and the organisms that can digest them.

I'm quite unaware of any bacteria, that would digest pure carbon; however there are countless bacterias, that digest carbohydrate compounds, such as glucosis...

Plenty of molecules that have carbon as a constituent part are digestible, but then plenty are not. Clearly carbon isn't the constituent vital element to aid digestion.

oh_noes wrote on Dec 25^th, 2009 at 4:27pm:

Plenty of molecules that have carbon as a constituent part are digestible, but then plenty are not. Clearly carbon isn't the constituent vital element to aid digestion.

It would be quite odd, if the cell could digest pure carbon, since it would have had practically nothing from it.

Yeah, the energy derived from the break down of a glucose molecule actually comes from the breaking of the chemical bonds.  The energy is put in by the process of photosynthesis, but this might be going down a path that we don't need to take.

Volcano Girl wrote on Dec 25^th, 2009 at 4:52pm:

Yeah, the energy derived from the break down of a glucose molecule actually comes from the breaking of the chemical bonds.  The energy is put in by the process of photosynthesis, but this might be going down a path that we don't need to take.

Photosynthesis is a carbon digesting process.  Go look it up.

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 25^th, 2009 at 5:08pm:

Photosynthesis is a carbon digesting process.  Go look it up.

Still stupid? Wow. Now, why don't YOU go look it up, what photosynthesis actually does...

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 25^th, 2009 at 5:08pm:

Volcano Girl wrote on Dec 25th, 2009 at 4:52pm: Yeah, the energy derived from the break down of a glucose molecule actually comes from the breaking of the chemical bonds.  The energy is put in by the process of photosynthesis, but this might be going down a path that we don't need to take. Photosynthesis is a carbon digesting process.  Go look it up.

What the f**k? So, we can add photosynthesis to the list of things you have no clue about too.

Ever heard of Carbon Dioxide? You know, are molecule involving both carbon and oxygen? Tell you what, you go and read up on what happens during photosynthesis, then come back here and fail to acknowledge, again, that you posted BS.

FAIL.

Volcano Girl wrote on Dec 25^th, 2009 at 4:13pm:

Well this isn't a list of digestable allotropes, however it is a list of the allotropes of carbon.  More than i was originally aware of, so i've learnt something new from this. :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotropes_of_carbon On the topic of which are digestible i'd go for none of them.

Sidestepping is a common part the the mental illness associated with Evodelusionism.

CARBONDIOXIDE.  I GUESS THAT IS NOT CARBON?

The other common disease is called "sideways logic" where the belief fuels the conclusions and what is right in front of your nose is never seen. Brainwashing is so strong that people see things that are not there and they can't see what is obvious.

We are only talking about the fact that bacteria adapts and does not evolve into some new creature.
Not one single, single celled creature has ever become complex, added new cell with new functions.
Bacteria will have changed to DNA that either kill it or it lives to eat carbon based "digestable" forms of carbon and it produces enzymes.  It has never done any new functions.


The frameshift mutation of bacteria did not change it into some other creature.  It still eats and makes carbon and does nothing else. It did not "evolve".

It adapts to survive and it is programmed to survive under some severe situations, because with out bacteria you and I would not live. It is a primary component to organic life. 

It never evolves, but it adapts to survive.  And if you take the same bacteria and starve it of nylon, it will find something else to eat and adapt to that or it will die.

There is no science in Evodelusionism, because it is a religion with magical causes and mystical creatures that never existed.

Start at the first of this thread an learn to get free of delusional beliefs.

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We are only talking about the fact that bacteria adapts and does not evolve into some new creature.

Could you point out where anyone said bacteria evolved into a new creature?

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 25^th, 2009 at 5:15pm:

Start at the first of this thread an learn to get free of delusional beliefs.

You mean like the belief that plants digest carbon?

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 25^th, 2009 at 5:08pm:

Volcano Girl wrote on Dec 25th, 2009 at 4:52pm: Yeah, the energy derived from the break down of a glucose molecule actually comes from the breaking of the chemical bonds.  The energy is put in by the process of photosynthesis, but this might be going down a path that we don't need to take. Photosynthesis is a carbon digesting process.  Go look it up.

What the god damned f**k????

I mean SERIOUSLY????

Photosynthesis (photo - light, synthesis - making) is the process by which carbon dixoide and water are combined in the presence of chlorophyll and sunlight to create glucose and oxygen.  Plants take in CO2 via the stomata in their leaves and water through their roots, these raw ingredients are transported to the palisade cells where they are then taken to the chloroplasts. In the chloroplasts is the chlorophyll which uses the energy delivered by the photons in sunlight to catalyze the reaction of both chemicals into glucose, with oxygen being the by product.  The energy is stored in the chemical bonds on the glucose molecule where it can be liberated during respiration.

Here is a balanced chemical equation for the process, appologies for not being able to do subscript correctly.

6CO2 + 6H2O -------(with chlorophyll and sunlight energy)----> C6H12O6 + 6O2

Hmmm.....GSFY hasn't replied to this.  Does that mean i can assume that he's admitted defeat and that i've adequatly pwned him on this?

Volcano Girl wrote on Dec 25^th, 2009 at 5:46pm:

Hmmm.....GSFY hasn't replied to this.  Does that mean i can assume that he's admitted defeat and that i've adequatly pwned him on this?

No, it means,l that we have to wait for the next stupid "truth" from him...

glowingape wrote on Dec 25^th, 2009 at 4:22pm:

oh_noes wrote on Dec 25th, 2009 at 4:08pm: I'm interested in composing a list of allotropes of carbon that are digestible so that I can study the evolution of the organisms that can digest carbon. Can someone provide a list of those allotropes that are digestible and the organisms that can digest them. I'm quite unaware of any bacteria, that would digest pure carbon; however there are countless bacterias, that digest carbohydrate compounds, such as glucosis...

The subject is "Nylon eating bacteria". Nylon is made from natural cabon. Go look up the forumla.
When I heard that you idiots think that eating nylon is proof of evolution, the fist thing I did was to go look up the forumula, since it has been 20 years since I studied it.

It is clear that nylon is composed of natural carbon in a form that can be converted and eaten by the power of enzymes from bacteria.
Bacteria does this all the time, and has absolutely nothing in common with this idea that fish turned into reptiles, and reptiles turned into birds and mammals as is your religious beliefs.

Bacteria has never evolved, not ever.  It remains as bacteria .
Your beliefs are so ridiculous that you have no credibility.


Volcano Girl wrote on Dec 25^th, 2009 at 5:46pm:

Hmmm.....GSFY hasn't replied to this.  Does that mean i can assume that he's admitted defeat and that i've adequatly pwned him on this?

What part of CARBONDIOXIDE DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?  All plants, creature cells ,bodies use carbon and convert it to cellular structures.

Carbon is a primary part of organic life. 

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 25^th, 2009 at 5:52pm:

glowingape wrote on Dec 25th, 2009 at 4:22pm: oh_noes wrote on Dec 25th, 2009 at 4:08pm: I'm interested in composing a list of allotropes of carbon that are digestible so that I can study the evolution of the organisms that can digest carbon. Can someone provide a list of those allotropes that are digestible and the organisms that can digest them. I'm quite unaware of any bacteria, that would digest pure carbon; however there are countless bacterias, that digest carbohydrate compounds, such as glucosis... The subject is "Nylon eating bacteria". Nylon is made from natural cabon. Go look up the forumla. When I heard that you idiots think that eating nylon is proof of evolution, the fist thing I did was to go look up the forumula, since it has been 20 years since I studied it. It is clear that nylon is composed of natural carbon in a form that can be converted and eaten by the power of enzymes from bacteria. Bacteria does this all the time, and has absolutely nothing in common with this idea that fish turned into reptiles, and reptiles turned into birds and mammals as is your religious beliefs. Bacteria has never evolved, not ever.  It remains as bacteria . Your beliefs are so ridiculous that you have no credibility.

WTF is fake carbon? You keep referring to natural carbon, do you know of unnatural carbon?

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 25^th, 2009 at 5:52pm:

glowingape wrote on Dec 25th, 2009 at 4:22pm: oh_noes wrote on Dec 25th, 2009 at 4:08pm: I'm interested in composing a list of allotropes of carbon that are digestible so that I can study the evolution of the organisms that can digest carbon. Can someone provide a list of those allotropes that are digestible and the organisms that can digest them. I'm quite unaware of any bacteria, that would digest pure carbon; however there are countless bacterias, that digest carbohydrate compounds, such as glucosis... The subjecrt is Nylon eating bacteria. Nylon is made from natural cabon. Go look up the forumla. When I heard that you idiots think that eating nylon is proof of evolution, the fist thing I did was to go look up the forumula, since it has been 20 years since I studied it. It is clear that nylon is composed of natural carbon in a form that can be converted and eaten by the power of enzymes from bacteria. Bacteria does this all the time, and has absolutely nothing in common with this idea that fish turned into reptiles, and reptiles turned into birds and mammals as is your religious beliefs. Your beliefs are so ridiculous that you have no credibility.

Oi, don't move the smegging goal posts.

The thread is about allotropes of carbon, which drifted slightly to photosynthesis.  Comment on either of those and don't side step.

Or are you sore from having been corrected?

Volcano Girl wrote on Dec 25^th, 2009 at 5:55pm:

Or are you sore from having been corrected?

That's not a sore, that's a compound fracture gone septic that looks terminal to me.

oh_noes wrote on Dec 25^th, 2009 at 5:56pm:

Volcano Girl wrote on Dec 25th, 2009 at 5:55pm: Or are you sore from having been corrected? That's not a sore, that's a compound fracture gone septic that looks terminal to me.

hehehe

oh_noes wrote on Dec 25^th, 2009 at 5:12pm:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 25th, 2009 at 5:08pm: Volcano Girl wrote on Dec 25th, 2009 at 4:52pm: Yeah, the energy derived from the break down of a glucose molecule actually comes from the breaking of the chemical bonds.  The energy is put in by the process of photosynthesis, but this might be going down a path that we don't need to take. Photosynthesis is a carbon digesting process.  Go look it up. What the f**k? So, we can add photosynthesis to the list of things you have no clue about too. Ever heard of Carbon Dioxide? You know, are molecule involving both carbon and oxygen? Tell you what, you go and read up on what happens during photosynthesis, then come back here and fail to acknowledge, again, that you posted BS. FAIL.

You arrogant weak human!  Your methods of sidestepping the issue are worthless, just like your beliefs.

Nylon eating bacteria is a normal process of bacteria to eat carbon based matter.  Some bacteria use photosynthesis to digest carbon.  Carbon dioxide is carbon, silly unscientific  idiot! ;D [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]

There has never been a species, strain or type of bacteria that has evolved into a multicellular creature.
It remains as bacteria and proceed to do what it always does.  Eats carbon based "food" that is in any digestible form, including petroleum, and then it produces enzymes.

It has never evolved to do anything else. 

Carbon dioxide is carbon, but diamond isn't?

Let me get this one straight, cos thats too f**ked up. A molecule made of carbon, and only carbon, is not carbon. But a molecule of carbon and oxygen is carbon?

A process that breaks down the bond between carbon and oxygen is considered digestion of carbon? WTF

And you expect me to think you understand this?

Carbon is required to be in the "food" of bacteria.  Diamonds are not "digestible" form of carbon.  That is what I said over and over.
The topic is about the stupid idea that Evotards have that a frame shift mutation, has somehow made bacteria into a new life form as is required by the definition of evolution.

In order for a single cell life form to "evolve" it must produce new functions and new cells that have independent functions from the original cell.  Bacteria for millions of Evotard years has never evolved.