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Message started by MajorAtheist on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 6:45am

Title: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 6:45am
When you CANT prove people are wrong, you have no reason to not believe them..............unless you are too stupid or too scared to believe.

For if you CANT prove them wrong, what reason do you have for not believing them?  NONE!

If you could prove them wrong, then THAT will be your reason for not believing.

So, GSFY, you need to work on trying to prove us wrong, for if you CANT then will only assume you are too stupid or too scared to believe us!

What other reason could there be?????????

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by GoodScienceForYou on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 9:48pm

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 6:45am:
When you CANT prove people are wrong, you have no reason to not believe them..............unless you are too stupid or too scared to believe.

For if you CANT prove them wrong, what reason do you have for not believing them?  NONE!

If you could prove them wrong, then THAT will be your reason for not believing.

So, GSFY, you need to work on trying to prove us wrong, for if you CANT then will only assume you are too stupid or too scared to believe us!

What other reason could there be?????????


I have proven you wrong on ever statement you make, based on real science.

IF you cannot produce any evidence that cannot be refuted, then you are insane.

I live in the zone of NO beliefs until absolutely proven. It is called sanity.

There is no evolution science the same as there is no creation science. You do not have to choose, both are not proven with any empirical evidence.
Humans are stupid. I know this because I am one and I have an IQ far higher than yours. Einstein said the same thing about his feeble human mind.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by metha on Feb 4th, 2010 at 3:59am
There is no point in discussing with GoodScienceForYou. I tried to have a normal discussion with the man, because I thought we had some opinions in common, but I have come to the conclusion that even if some opinions are in common, the reasons for those opinions are totally different. I am into physics, and I do not know enough about evolution yet, but he also claims that he is into physics and mathematics. So I thought I could discuss those topics with him. But it turned out that he was an expert in everything, including physics, mathematics and evolution and biology and what not. However, I found that he doesn't understand physics at all, and he went totally into my little trap, and he easily fell into it and showed me that he really has no clue what he is talking about (when it comes to physics), and so I have no reasons to believe that he knows what he talks about in other areas either, so I went to another and better forum to learn and discuss evolution.

He quotes Einstein and says he understands Einstein. But he showed me clearly that he does not understand relativity at all. He does not understand what Einstein meant by "relativity of time", and yet he claims he understands Einstein's theories. I have asked him many times to explain to me what Einstein meant by that, but he avoids the topic like a plague, simply because he has no idea what it means. I therefore suspect that he is in the same position when it comes to evolution (and other topics), so I see no reason to believe him. He constantly denies what I know for a FACT, and that is simply him being exposed as what he really is: Someone who claims a lot of things about himself, being an expert in everything, but not really able to argue or listen. To accomplish his agenda, he constantly lies and his only argument it: I am smarter than you, so I am right. But guess what, GoodScienceForYou; I am much smarter than you, and you know it.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by metha on Feb 4th, 2010 at 4:03am
My suggestion is that people leave this forum and not let his ego grow anymore. Several people left. Even people I disagreed with were more correct than him. I see no point in being on this forum, and many people have left because they do not want to give this man any more wasted time. I suggest people just let him be and show him that this forum is practically pointless. He doesn't understand that people are here to make fun. As sad as it is, it is still true. I noticed that many people discussed with him and just played along for fun. Yes, it was sad to watch, but I do not blame them. But the more they discussed with him, the more he actually thought it was a real discussion and the more his ego grew. It was pathetic to watch.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by metha on Feb 4th, 2010 at 4:14am
He doesn't understand Einstein, that much I figured. Then I wanted to know if I should spend more time here or not, so I put out a very, very simple physics example for him to figure out (if he is into physics, it should have been easy), but he didn't get it at all. His comments had nothing to do with the example, and he did not even see what the example had to do with reality. It had everything to do with reality, of course, but I used words they use in physics. His response was: This is just abstract math and has nothing to do with reality. I got my question answered: He doesn't understand physics - not even a simple example like that, where the simplicity and reality in the example was just (just a little) hidden in the words I chose to write down the example.To say that Fourier transforms has nothing to do with reality (only electrical physics), exposed him, and so I stopped discussing and found something much better.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 4th, 2010 at 7:57am

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 9:48pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 6:45am:
When you CANT prove people are wrong, you have no reason to not believe them..............unless you are too stupid or too scared to believe.

For if you CANT prove them wrong, what reason do you have for not believing them?  NONE!

If you could prove them wrong, then THAT will be your reason for not believing.

So, GSFY, you need to work on trying to prove us wrong, for if you CANT then will only assume you are too stupid or too scared to believe us!

What other reason could there be?????????


I have proven you wrong on ever statement you make, based on real science.


WHERE???????????????





Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 4th, 2010 at 7:58am

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 9:48pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 6:45am:
When you CANT prove people are wrong, you have no reason to not believe them..............unless you are too stupid or too scared to believe.

For if you CANT prove them wrong, what reason do you have for not believing them?  NONE!

If you could prove them wrong, then THAT will be your reason for not believing.

So, GSFY, you need to work on trying to prove us wrong, for if you CANT then will only assume you are too stupid or too scared to believe us!

What other reason could there be?????????


I have proven you wrong on ever statement you make, based on real science.

IF you cannot produce any evidence that cannot be refuted, then you are insane.


Can you believe the evidence I provided????

Why not, you have yet to show me where it is wrong.  Take your time!

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 4th, 2010 at 8:15am

metha wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 4:14am:
He doesn't understand Einstein, that much I figured. Then I wanted to know if I should spend more time here or not, so I put out a very, very simple physics example for him to figure out (if he is into physics, it should have been easy), but he didn't get it at all. His comments had nothing to do with the example, and he did not even see what the example had to do with reality. It had everything to do with reality, of course, but I used words they use in physics. His response was: This is just abstract math and has nothing to do with reality. I got my question answered: He doesn't understand physics - not even a simple example like that, where the simplicity and reality in the example was just (just a little) hidden in the words I chose to write down the example.To say that Fourier transforms has nothing to do with reality (only electrical physics), exposed him, and so I stopped discussing and found something much better.



EXACTLY metha, it is a classic example of the Religious people RUNNING from the issues that they know will prove them wrong.

It is like proving the grass is green by telling someone to look down and investigate themselves, but YET GSFY would only wait until winter to investigate your claim.  Then they can only say the grass is brown and you were not only wrong, but you were lying.  LOL

When it comes to beliefs, you should have only 3 reasons for NOT being able to believe:
1. I am wrong, which you should be able to show for it is your reason for not believing.
2. You don't understand what I am trying to teach you; therefore you dont understand enough to believe.
3. You are fearful of changing your beliefs; usually because God will punish you if you don't beleive in him.


So, since GSFY can't/doesn't believe me................I have asked him to show me:
1. Where I am wrong, for certainly he can show me. If he can't show me then he has no reason to not believe me.
2. Maybe he is too stupid to understand in the first place.
3. Maybe his God will punish him if he DISbelieves in HIM.(You know like a flood or something.....lol)


Well, he has failed to show me where I am wrong.
I am starting to think he is stupid.
Or I am starting to think he is just too scared of his very own God!


I hope for his own Sake he proves that his reason for not believing me is FEAR, for I will only be left with STUPIDITY!

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 4th, 2010 at 8:26am

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 9:48pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 6:45am:
When you CANT prove people are wrong, you have no reason to not believe them..............unless you are too stupid or too scared to believe.

For if you CANT prove them wrong, what reason do you have for not believing them?  NONE!

If you could prove them wrong, then THAT will be your reason for not believing.

So, GSFY, you need to work on trying to prove us wrong, for if you CANT then will only assume you are too stupid or too scared to believe us!

What other reason could there be?????????



There is no evolution science the same as there is no creation science. You do not have to choose, both are not proven with any empirical evidence.




We have empirical evidence.  But of course if you will get punished for believing in it, then there is no way you can!  You just CANT! Your God will punish you if you do!

Does your God create floods to wipe out populations or something?  Is that the reason you are too scared to believe?

There must be some reason?????????????? 



AGAIN.......So, GSFY, you need to work on trying to prove us wrong, for if you CANT then will only assume you are too stupid or too scared to believe us!

What other reason could there be????????

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by GoodScienceForYou on Feb 4th, 2010 at 11:19pm

metha wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 3:59am:
There is no point in discussing with GoodScienceForYou. I tried to have a normal discussion with the man, because I thought we had some opinions in common, but I have come to the conclusion that even if some opinions are in common, the reasons for those opinions are totally different. I am into physics, and I do not know enough about evolution yet, but he also claims that he is into physics and mathematics. So I thought I could discuss those topics with him. But it turned out that he was an expert in everything, including physics, mathematics and evolution and biology and what not. However, I found that he doesn't understand physics at all, and he went totally into my little trap, and he easily fell into it and showed me that he really has no clue what he is talking about (when it comes to physics), and so I have no reasons to believe that he knows what he talks about in other areas either, so I went to another and better forum to learn and discuss evolution.

He quotes Einstein and says he understands Einstein. But he showed me clearly that he does not understand relativity at all. He does not understand what Einstein meant by "relativity of time", and yet he claims he understands Einstein's theories. I have asked him many times to explain to me what Einstein meant by that, but he avoids the topic like a plague, simply because he has no idea what it means. I therefore suspect that he is in the same position when it comes to evolution (and other topics), so I see no reason to believe him. He constantly denies what I know for a FACT, and that is simply him being exposed as what he really is: Someone who claims a lot of things about himself, being an expert in everything, but not really able to argue or listen. To accomplish his agenda, he constantly lies and his only argument it: I am smarter than you, so I am right. But guess what, GoodScienceForYou; I am much smarter than you, and you know it.


Pay attention this time.  There is only cause and effect in the universe. Until it goes back to the source and is outside of physical world it is only cause and effect. There is no random event with the electron, because YOU and YOUR weak minded friends cannot see the cause or even fathom the cause does not make your faith and belief in random real.  I understand your math and your faith in this belief.
I know where it comes from, on the deepest level. That is what you need to train your mind to do.

I know about Einsteins theories. Have you proven all of them yet?

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by metha on Feb 4th, 2010 at 11:42pm

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 11:19pm:
Pay attention this time.  There is only cause and effect in the universe.


See people? GSFY is so kind to help me to prove my point.


Quote:
Until it goes back to the source and is outside of physical world it is only cause and effect. There is no random event with the electron, because YOU and YOUR weak minded friends


Then why do you keep quoting the stupid and weak man called Einstein? Stop quoting him if you think he is so weak and stupid.


Quote:
I understand your math


Nope, you do not. You showed me that. In public!



Quote:
I know about Einsteins theories. Have you proven all of them yet?


What are you talking about? Proven Einsteins theories? Even he didn't prove his theory of relativity. But it has evidence beyond all doubt. But I can answer yes to your question if you ask me if I have done experiments on the theories and if you ask if we have attempted falsifying them. Yes we have, and we only confirmed them.

You claim you know his theories. Ok, so explain to me what he meant by relativity of time.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by metha on Feb 4th, 2010 at 11:43pm
And furthermore, what is the KEY observation in all of the theory of relativity? What is the big clue which from you can deduce a lot of the theory?

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by GoodScienceForYou on Feb 4th, 2010 at 11:50pm

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 8:15am:

metha wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 4:14am:
He doesn't understand Einstein, that much I figured. Then I wanted to know if I should spend more time here or not, so I put out a very, very simple physics example for him to figure out (if he is into physics, it should have been easy), but he didn't get it at all. His comments had nothing to do with the example, and he did not even see what the example had to do with reality. It had everything to do with reality, of course, but I used words they use in physics. His response was: This is just abstract math and has nothing to do with reality. I got my question answered: He doesn't understand physics - not even a simple example like that, where the simplicity and reality in the example was just (just a little) hidden in the words I chose to write down the example.To say that Fourier transforms has nothing to do with reality (only electrical physics), exposed him, and so I stopped discussing and found something much better.



EXACTLY metha, it is a classic example of the Religious people RUNNING from the issues that they know will prove them wrong.

It is like proving the grass is green by telling someone to look down and investigate themselves, but YET GSFY would only wait until winter to investigate your claim.  Then they can only say the grass is brown and you were not only wrong, but you were lying.  LOL

When it comes to beliefs, you should have only 3 reasons for NOT being able to believe:
1. I am wrong, which you should be able to show for it is your reason for not believing.
2. You don't understand what I am trying to teach you; therefore you dont understand enough to believe.
3. You are fearful of changing your beliefs; usually because God will punish you if you don't beleive in him.


So, since GSFY can't/doesn't believe me................I have asked him to show me:
1. Where I am wrong, for certainly he can show me. If he can't show me then he has no reason to not believe me.
2. Maybe he is too stupid to understand in the first place.
3. Maybe his God will punish him if he DISbelieves in HIM.(You know like a flood or something.....lol)


Well, he has failed to show me where I am wrong.
I am starting to think he is stupid.
Or I am starting to think he is just too scared of his very own God!


I hope for his own Sake he proves that his reason for not believing me is FEAR, for I will only be left with STUPIDITY!


As far as I can tell you are a mass of conflicting data and inconsistency, really confused.  You are not able to comprehend much of what I teach. You change the image of the world to fit your beliefs and you believe in mystical things that are not and have never been in reality.  That is a religion and because it is disguised as science as this sort of garbage has been for centuries, you are prone to be a cult member.  You cannot be free until you get free of other people's delusional nonsense.  This is why I have no religion and only go with what has been shown to me over and over and over.

You think that I believe in God's punishment.  All the evidence points to science and events based on pure logic.

When you harm other people, that is energy that will come back on you. I have seen this many times in my life and have documented examples of it.

Just recently the company who sued me for my statements about how they mistreat customers and lie to them for profits is now closed.  All I did was to tell them to treat people with respect and to try to be good to their customers, and that what they do is to degrade my industry and lower the whole reputation of my industry. All of which is documented as true with thousands upon thousand of customer complaints, F ratings with the BBB.  There was no magic in the fact that they folded and will continue to fold all of their outlets across the country, because of greed and lies.  It all comes back. It is the laws of science in action.

You basically are the cause of your own suffering by the laws of science.  "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."  The problem is your mind is so weak that you can't see how your actions radiate out from you and come back to you.  You think there is luck and crap like that, but it is really just how the events, energies, masses momentum, etc are operation at that moment.

Magical thinking is religious.  Believing in luck is religious. Believing in magical processes that cause fish to become humans over some immense time is ridiculous magical beliefs, religious beliefs.

When you do harm to a really good person, who has the ability to help many people or to even help you, you are actually doing harm to yourself equal to how much you impede that good persons progress.  Many good people have been murdered, because you don't see the results to the murderers and you think they got away with it. Just go study the life of any of them.  Their whole life is a living hell.

In order to know what is right and wrong in life, you must be completely honest with yourself. If you are not then you live in apparent random chaos and fear.  Your delusions cannot keep you from harming yourself.  They are the cause of doing stupid things to one another that cause you to suffer.
When you don't have a clue what you are doing, the first thing to do is admit it.

It is even used in 12 step programs to get people free from self destructive behavior.  The first is to admit how weak, out of control and stupid you are. Then be absolutely honest with yourself.

That means you never lie to yourself or anyone else. And if you don't know what the heck you are talking about, keep your mouth shut and don't spread you dumb ass beliefs.

If you have doubts about anything, then it is not real. There is you best clue.  Follow those doubts, because they are based on a part of you who actually understands the truth.

Attacking my character, will get you no where, but you will have people attacking your character, for sure in the future.

When people come up against the truth and it hurts their egos, it is up to them to allow changes.  Just like you walked into the door of delusional beliefs, and became the proud owner of nonsense and you surround yourself with other believers in nonsense, you can leave this crowd of delusional people and walk out the door you came in from.

Before you were coerced into this stupid religion you were clear of it at some point.  You can get clear of it now.  It really is easy.  Stop hanging around with those who reinforce this crap in your head for a while and see what happens.

If you want to be free of nonsense, you need to go to the "NEUTRAL ZONE" of no beliefs in anything that is not comprehend-able to you in the first place.  Get you mind back from all those conflicting pieces of crap that are not real.  Get clear of ignorance. 





Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by prolescum on Feb 5th, 2010 at 6:25am

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 11:50pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 8:15am:

metha wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 4:14am:
He doesn't understand Einstein, that much I figured. Then I wanted to know if I should spend more time here or not, so I put out a very, very simple physics example for him to figure out (if he is into physics, it should have been easy), but he didn't get it at all. His comments had nothing to do with the example, and he did not even see what the example had to do with reality. It had everything to do with reality, of course, but I used words they use in physics. His response was: This is just abstract math and has nothing to do with reality. I got my question answered: He doesn't understand physics - not even a simple example like that, where the simplicity and reality in the example was just (just a little) hidden in the words I chose to write down the example.To say that Fourier transforms has nothing to do with reality (only electrical physics), exposed him, and so I stopped discussing and found something much better.



EXACTLY metha, it is a classic example of the Religious people RUNNING from the issues that they know will prove them wrong.

It is like proving the grass is green by telling someone to look down and investigate themselves, but YET GSFY would only wait until winter to investigate your claim.  Then they can only say the grass is brown and you were not only wrong, but you were lying.  LOL

When it comes to beliefs, you should have only 3 reasons for NOT being able to believe:
1. I am wrong, which you should be able to show for it is your reason for not believing.
2. You don't understand what I am trying to teach you; therefore you dont understand enough to believe.
3. You are fearful of changing your beliefs; usually because God will punish you if you don't beleive in him.


So, since GSFY can't/doesn't believe me................I have asked him to show me:
1. Where I am wrong, for certainly he can show me. If he can't show me then he has no reason to not believe me.
2. Maybe he is too stupid to understand in the first place.
3. Maybe his God will punish him if he DISbelieves in HIM.(You know like a flood or something.....lol)


Well, he has failed to show me where I am wrong.
I am starting to think he is stupid.
Or I am starting to think he is just too scared of his very own God!


I hope for his own Sake he proves that his reason for not believing me is FEAR, for I will only be left with STUPIDITY!


As far as I can tell you are a mass of conflicting data and inconsistency, really confused.  You are not able to comprehend much of what I teach. You change the image of the world to fit your beliefs and you believe in mystical things that are not and have never been in reality.  That is a religion and because it is disguised as science as this sort of feculence has been for centuries, you are prone to be a cult member.  You cannot be free until you get free of other people's delusional nonsense.  This is why I have no religion and only go with what has been shown to me over and over and over.

You think that I believe in God's punishment.  All the evidence points to science and events based on pure logic.

When you harm other people, that is energy that will come back on you. I have seen this many times in my life and have documented examples of it.

Just recently the company who sued me for my statements about how they mistreat customers and lie to them for profits is now closed.  All I did was to tell them to treat people with respect and to try to be good to their customers, and that what they do is to degrade my industry and lower the whole reputation of my industry. All of which is documented as true with thousands upon thousand of customer complaints, F ratings with the BBB.  There was no magic in the fact that they folded and will continue to fold all of their outlets across the country, because of greed and lies.  It all comes back. It is the laws of science in action.

You basically are the cause of your own suffering by the laws of science.  "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."  The problem is your mind is so weak that you can't see how your actions radiate out from you and come back to you.  You think there is luck and crap like that, but it is really just how the events, energies, masses momentum, etc are operation at that moment.

Magical thinking is religious.  Believing in luck is religious. Believing in magical processes that cause fish to become humans over some immense time is ridiculous magical beliefs, religious beliefs.

When you do harm to a really good person, who has the ability to help many people or to even help you, you are actually doing harm to yourself equal to how much you impede that good persons progress.  Many good people have been murdered, because you don't see the results to the murderers and you think they got away with it. Just go study the life of any of them.  Their whole life is a living hell.

In order to know what is right and wrong in life, you must be completely honest with yourself. If you are not then you live in apparent random chaos and fear.  Your delusions cannot keep you from harming yourself.  They are the cause of doing stupid things to one another that cause you to suffer.
When you don't have a clue what you are doing, the first thing to do is admit it.

It is even used in 12 step programs to get people free from self destructive behavior.  The first is to admit how weak, out of control and stupid you are. Then be absolutely honest with yourself.

That means you never lie to yourself or anyone else. And if you don't know what the heck you are talking about, keep your mouth shut and don't spread you dumb ass beliefs.

If you have doubts about anything, then it is not real. There is you best clue.  Follow those doubts, because they are based on a part of you who actually understands the truth.

Attacking my character, will get you no where, but you will have people attacking your character, for sure in the future.

When people come up against the truth and it hurts their egos, it is up to them to allow changes.  Just like you walked into the door of delusional beliefs, and became the proud owner of nonsense and you surround yourself with other believers in nonsense, you can leave this crowd of delusional people and walk out the door you came in from.

Before you were coerced into this stupid religion you were clear of it at some point.  You can get clear of it now.  It really is easy.  Stop hanging around with those who reinforce this crap in your head for a while and see what happens.

If you want to be free of nonsense, you need to go to the "NEUTRAL ZONE" of no beliefs in anything that is not comprehend-able to you in the first place.  Get you mind back from all those conflicting pieces of crap that are not real.  Get clear of ignorance. 

Like your stated [b]belief[/i] that GOD = TRUTH ?

You have the IQ of a chimp, which is ironic, because in your world, you're very closely related to them.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 5th, 2010 at 8:03am

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 11:50pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 8:15am:

metha wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 4:14am:
He doesn't understand Einstein, that much I figured. Then I wanted to know if I should spend more time here or not, so I put out a very, very simple physics example for him to figure out (if he is into physics, it should have been easy), but he didn't get it at all. His comments had nothing to do with the example, and he did not even see what the example had to do with reality. It had everything to do with reality, of course, but I used words they use in physics. His response was: This is just abstract math and has nothing to do with reality. I got my question answered: He doesn't understand physics - not even a simple example like that, where the simplicity and reality in the example was just (just a little) hidden in the words I chose to write down the example.To say that Fourier transforms has nothing to do with reality (only electrical physics), exposed him, and so I stopped discussing and found something much better.



EXACTLY metha, it is a classic example of the Religious people RUNNING from the issues that they know will prove them wrong.

It is like proving the grass is green by telling someone to look down and investigate themselves, but YET GSFY would only wait until winter to investigate your claim.  Then they can only say the grass is brown and you were not only wrong, but you were lying.  LOL

When it comes to beliefs, you should have only 3 reasons for NOT being able to believe:
1. I am wrong, which you should be able to show for it is your reason for not believing.
2. You don't understand what I am trying to teach you; therefore you dont understand enough to believe.
3. You are fearful of changing your beliefs; usually because God will punish you if you don't beleive in him.


So, since GSFY can't/doesn't believe me................I have asked him to show me:
1. Where I am wrong, for certainly he can show me. If he can't show me then he has no reason to not believe me.
2. Maybe he is too stupid to understand in the first place.
3. Maybe his God will punish him if he DISbelieves in HIM.(You know like a flood or something.....lol)


Well, he has failed to show me where I am wrong.
I am starting to think he is stupid.
Or I am starting to think he is just too scared of his very own God!


I hope for his own Sake he proves that his reason for not believing me is FEAR, for I will only be left with STUPIDITY!


As far as I can tell you are a mass of conflicting data and inconsistency, really confused. 


SADLY you CANT show me any evidence of me giving conflicting data!!!

CLASSIC lies! WHAHAHAHAHHA

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 5th, 2010 at 8:04am

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 11:50pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 8:15am:

metha wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 4:14am:
He doesn't understand Einstein, that much I figured. Then I wanted to know if I should spend more time here or not, so I put out a very, very simple physics example for him to figure out (if he is into physics, it should have been easy), but he didn't get it at all. His comments had nothing to do with the example, and he did not even see what the example had to do with reality. It had everything to do with reality, of course, but I used words they use in physics. His response was: This is just abstract math and has nothing to do with reality. I got my question answered: He doesn't understand physics - not even a simple example like that, where the simplicity and reality in the example was just (just a little) hidden in the words I chose to write down the example.To say that Fourier transforms has nothing to do with reality (only electrical physics), exposed him, and so I stopped discussing and found something much better.



EXACTLY metha, it is a classic example of the Religious people RUNNING from the issues that they know will prove them wrong.

It is like proving the grass is green by telling someone to look down and investigate themselves, but YET GSFY would only wait until winter to investigate your claim.  Then they can only say the grass is brown and you were not only wrong, but you were lying.  LOL

When it comes to beliefs, you should have only 3 reasons for NOT being able to believe:
1. I am wrong, which you should be able to show for it is your reason for not believing.
2. You don't understand what I am trying to teach you; therefore you dont understand enough to believe.
3. You are fearful of changing your beliefs; usually because God will punish you if you don't beleive in him.


So, since GSFY can't/doesn't believe me................I have asked him to show me:
1. Where I am wrong, for certainly he can show me. If he can't show me then he has no reason to not believe me.
2. Maybe he is too stupid to understand in the first place.
3. Maybe his God will punish him if he DISbelieves in HIM.(You know like a flood or something.....lol)


Well, he has failed to show me where I am wrong.
I am starting to think he is stupid.
Or I am starting to think he is just too scared of his very own God!


I hope for his own Sake he proves that his reason for not believing me is FEAR, for I will only be left with STUPIDITY!


As far as I can tell you are a mass of conflicting data and inconsistency, really confused.  You are not able to comprehend much of what I teach.



SIGH.................then SHOW me where.  But only if you CAN!!!   Would not want you to strain yourself in trying to do something you CANT!  LOL

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 5th, 2010 at 8:06am

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 11:50pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 8:15am:

metha wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 4:14am:
He doesn't understand Einstein, that much I figured. Then I wanted to know if I should spend more time here or not, so I put out a very, very simple physics example for him to figure out (if he is into physics, it should have been easy), but he didn't get it at all. His comments had nothing to do with the example, and he did not even see what the example had to do with reality. It had everything to do with reality, of course, but I used words they use in physics. His response was: This is just abstract math and has nothing to do with reality. I got my question answered: He doesn't understand physics - not even a simple example like that, where the simplicity and reality in the example was just (just a little) hidden in the words I chose to write down the example.To say that Fourier transforms has nothing to do with reality (only electrical physics), exposed him, and so I stopped discussing and found something much better.



EXACTLY metha, it is a classic example of the Religious people RUNNING from the issues that they know will prove them wrong.

It is like proving the grass is green by telling someone to look down and investigate themselves, but YET GSFY would only wait until winter to investigate your claim.  Then they can only say the grass is brown and you were not only wrong, but you were lying.  LOL

When it comes to beliefs, you should have only 3 reasons for NOT being able to believe:
1. I am wrong, which you should be able to show for it is your reason for not believing.
2. You don't understand what I am trying to teach you; therefore you dont understand enough to believe.
3. You are fearful of changing your beliefs; usually because God will punish you if you don't beleive in him.


So, since GSFY can't/doesn't believe me................I have asked him to show me:
1. Where I am wrong, for certainly he can show me. If he can't show me then he has no reason to not believe me.
2. Maybe he is too stupid to understand in the first place.
3. Maybe his God will punish him if he DISbelieves in HIM.(You know like a flood or something.....lol)


Well, he has failed to show me where I am wrong.
I am starting to think he is stupid.
Or I am starting to think he is just too scared of his very own God!


I hope for his own Sake he proves that his reason for not believing me is FEAR, for I will only be left with STUPIDITY!


As far as I can tell you are a mass of conflicting data and inconsistency, really confused.  You are not able to comprehend much of what I teach. You change the image of the world to fit your beliefs and you believe in mystical things that are not and have never been in reality. 



AGAIN, I will keep asking you WHERE I am wrong until you show me.  You can RUN all you want, but since you  have FAILED each time, it leaves you NO reason to not believe something that you CANT prove is wrong/illogical!

Sorry, but I am starting to think that you CANT keep up!!!

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 5th, 2010 at 8:10am

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 11:50pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 8:15am:

metha wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 4:14am:
He doesn't understand Einstein, that much I figured. Then I wanted to know if I should spend more time here or not, so I put out a very, very simple physics example for him to figure out (if he is into physics, it should have been easy), but he didn't get it at all. His comments had nothing to do with the example, and he did not even see what the example had to do with reality. It had everything to do with reality, of course, but I used words they use in physics. His response was: This is just abstract math and has nothing to do with reality. I got my question answered: He doesn't understand physics - not even a simple example like that, where the simplicity and reality in the example was just (just a little) hidden in the words I chose to write down the example.To say that Fourier transforms has nothing to do with reality (only electrical physics), exposed him, and so I stopped discussing and found something much better.



EXACTLY metha, it is a classic example of the Religious people RUNNING from the issues that they know will prove them wrong.

It is like proving the grass is green by telling someone to look down and investigate themselves, but YET GSFY would only wait until winter to investigate your claim.  Then they can only say the grass is brown and you were not only wrong, but you were lying.  LOL

When it comes to beliefs, you should have only 3 reasons for NOT being able to believe:
1. I am wrong, which you should be able to show for it is your reason for not believing.
2. You don't understand what I am trying to teach you; therefore you dont understand enough to believe.
3. You are fearful of changing your beliefs; usually because God will punish you if you don't beleive in him.


So, since GSFY can't/doesn't believe me................I have asked him to show me:
1. Where I am wrong, for certainly he can show me. If he can't show me then he has no reason to not believe me.
2. Maybe he is too stupid to understand in the first place.
3. Maybe his God will punish him if he DISbelieves in HIM.(You know like a flood or something.....lol)


Well, he has failed to show me where I am wrong.
I am starting to think he is stupid.
Or I am starting to think he is just too scared of his very own God!


I hope for his own Sake he proves that his reason for not believing me is FEAR, for I will only be left with STUPIDITY!


As far as I can tell you are a mass of conflicting data and inconsistency, really confused.  You are not able to comprehend much of what I teach. You change the image of the world to fit your beliefs and you believe in mystical things that are not and have never been in reality.  That is a religion and because it is disguised as science as this sort of feculence has been for centuries, you are prone to be a cult member.  You cannot be free until you get free of other people's delusional nonsense.  This is why I have no religion and only go with what has been shown to me over and over and over.

You think that I believe in God's punishment. 



Something MUST be standing in your way of NOT believing things that you CANT prove wrong! If it is not FEAR, then it must be stupidity!!!

For something must be stopping you.  Help me figure out what it is?  Is it FEAR of God's punishment or stupidity.

MAN, I hope you start proving the punishment found in your holy book, for if you don't, then I will only conclude that you CANT believe me because you are not smart enough.  UP TO YOU!



Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 5th, 2010 at 8:14am
The problem is your mind is so weak that you can't see how your actions radiate out from you and come back to you. ]]]]]]

SIGH.............Really starting to think that you CANT show me where I am wrong.

But I will continue to ask you to prove me wrong, and I BET my life that you just CANT do it!

Since you CANT prove me wrong, please tell me of the reason you CANT believe what you can't prove wrong.  Stupidity or FEAR??????


Man, I hope you prove FEAR for your own sake! LOL

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by GoodScienceForYou on Feb 5th, 2010 at 9:24am

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 8:14am:
The problem is your mind is so weak that you can't see how your actions radiate out from you and come back to you. ]]]]]]

SIGH.............Really starting to think that you CANT show me where I am wrong.

But I will continue to ask you to prove me wrong, and I BET my life that you just CANT do it!

Since you CANT prove me wrong, please tell me of the reason you CANT believe what you can't prove wrong.  Stupidity or FEAR??????


Man, I hope you prove FEAR for your own sake! LOL


You are afraid of me, because you know in your heart that I am correct about your religious garbage beliefs in Evodelusionism.

Any science that violates the foundation of science can't be called a science. If you can't understand that, then you are really stupid.  Pathetic and lost in deep delusional human garbage beliefs.

You are now banned.  I am sick of repeating the same proof to you over and over, and you saying "it can't be", like I am ever going to believe someone so lost in horseshit. 

If you want to be free of the power and control this has over your life, you can.  But for some reason this crap owns you and you are too weak willed and stupid to figure it out.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by metha on Feb 5th, 2010 at 9:54am
Are you not able to answer any of my question on the Einsteinian physics? You say you understand Einstein, so again... tell me: What did Einstein mean about relativity of time? What is the KEY observation that should make you (with an IQ of 180) able to deduce lots of the results in Einsteins theory of relativity? What is it? Answer will come (if you cannot give it) later.

If you cannot answer any of this, you do not understand Einstein, and so hence you are proven to be a fraud.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by GoodScienceForYou on Feb 5th, 2010 at 10:51am

prolescum wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 6:25am:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 11:50pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 8:15am:

metha wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 4:14am:
He doesn't understand Einstein, that much I figured. Then I wanted to know if I should spend more time here or not, so I put out a very, very simple physics example for him to figure out (if he is into physics, it should have been easy), but he didn't get it at all. His comments had nothing to do with the example, and he did not even see what the example had to do with reality. It had everything to do with reality, of course, but I used words they use in physics. His response was: This is just abstract math and has nothing to do with reality. I got my question answered: He doesn't understand physics - not even a simple example like that, where the simplicity and reality in the example was just (just a little) hidden in the words I chose to write down the example.To say that Fourier transforms has nothing to do with reality (only electrical physics), exposed him, and so I stopped discussing and found something much better.



EXACTLY metha, it is a classic example of the Religious people RUNNING from the issues that they know will prove them wrong.

It is like proving the grass is green by telling someone to look down and investigate themselves, but YET GSFY would only wait until winter to investigate your claim.  Then they can only say the grass is brown and you were not only wrong, but you were lying.  LOL

When it comes to beliefs, you should have only 3 reasons for NOT being able to believe:
1. I am wrong, which you should be able to show for it is your reason for not believing.
2. You don't understand what I am trying to teach you; therefore you dont understand enough to believe.
3. You are fearful of changing your beliefs; usually because God will punish you if you don't beleive in him.


So, since GSFY can't/doesn't believe me................I have asked him to show me:
1. Where I am wrong, for certainly he can show me. If he can't show me then he has no reason to not believe me.
2. Maybe he is too stupid to understand in the first place.
3. Maybe his God will punish him if he DISbelieves in HIM.(You know like a flood or something.....lol)


Well, he has failed to show me where I am wrong.
I am starting to think he is stupid.
Or I am starting to think he is just too scared of his very own God!


I hope for his own Sake he proves that his reason for not believing me is FEAR, for I will only be left with STUPIDITY!


As far as I can tell you are a mass of conflicting data and inconsistency, really confused.  You are not able to comprehend much of what I teach. You change the image of the world to fit your beliefs and you believe in mystical things that are not and have never been in reality.  That is a religion and because it is disguised as science as this sort of feculence has been for centuries, you are prone to be a cult member.  You cannot be free until you get free of other people's delusional nonsense.  This is why I have no religion and only go with what has been shown to me over and over and over.

You think that I believe in God's punishment.  All the evidence points to science and events based on pure logic.

When you harm other people, that is energy that will come back on you. I have seen this many times in my life and have documented examples of it.

Just recently the company who sued me for my statements about how they mistreat customers and lie to them for profits is now closed.  All I did was to tell them to treat people with respect and to try to be good to their customers, and that what they do is to degrade my industry and lower the whole reputation of my industry. All of which is documented as true with thousands upon thousand of customer complaints, F ratings with the BBB.  There was no magic in the fact that they folded and will continue to fold all of their outlets across the country, because of greed and lies.  It all comes back. It is the laws of science in action.

You basically are the cause of your own suffering by the laws of science.  "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."  The problem is your mind is so weak that you can't see how your actions radiate out from you and come back to you.  You think there is luck and crap like that, but it is really just how the events, energies, masses momentum, etc are operation at that moment.

Magical thinking is religious.  Believing in luck is religious. Believing in magical processes that cause fish to become humans over some immense time is ridiculous magical beliefs, religious beliefs.

When you do harm to a really good person, who has the ability to help many people or to even help you, you are actually doing harm to yourself equal to how much you impede that good persons progress.  Many good people have been murdered, because you don't see the results to the murderers and you think they got away with it. Just go study the life of any of them.  Their whole life is a living hell.

In order to know what is right and wrong in life, you must be completely honest with yourself. If you are not then you live in apparent random chaos and fear.  Your delusions cannot keep you from harming yourself.  They are the cause of doing stupid things to one another that cause you to suffer.
When you don't have a clue what you are doing, the first thing to do is admit it.

It is even used in 12 step programs to get people free from self destructive behavior.  The first is to admit how weak, out of control and stupid you are. Then be absolutely honest with yourself.

That means you never lie to yourself or anyone else. And if you don't know what the heck you are talking about, keep your mouth shut and don't spread you dumb ass beliefs.

If you have doubts about anything, then it is not real. There is you best clue.  Follow those doubts, because they are based on a part of you who actually understands the truth.

Attacking my character, will get you no where, but you will have people attacking your character, for sure in the future.

When people come up against the truth and it hurts their egos, it is up to them to allow changes.  Just like you walked into the door of delusional beliefs, and became the proud owner of nonsense and you surround yourself with other believers in nonsense, you can leave this crowd of delusional people and walk out the door you came in from.

Before you were coerced into this stupid religion you were clear of it at some point.  You can get clear of it now.  It really is easy.  Stop hanging around with those who reinforce this crap in your head for a while and see what happens.

If you want to be free of nonsense, you need to go to the "NEUTRAL ZONE" of no beliefs in anything that is not comprehend-able to you in the first place.  Get you mind back from all those conflicting pieces of crap that are not real.  Get clear of ignorance. 

Like your stated [b]belief[/i] that GOD = TRUTH ?

You have the IQ of a chimp, which is ironic, because in your world, you're very closely related to them.


In your world you are closely related to them.  I don't believe in anything that can't be proven absolutely as you do. 
I have been tested with an IQ over 180, by your PHD.  Personally I only use that fact to piss you off and get your attention.

Now you have to apologize to me for your lies.

God = Truth is an absolute. It is not a belief.
If you don't have the capacity to seek the truth and to recognize it when you see it, that is what delusions are all about. Delusions are like "feculence glasses". All you see is feculence everywhere.

If you are not seeking the truth, then you are only seeking to perpetuate your delusions. 


There are two things that exist the truth and nonsense. There is nothing in between.

If you are not capable of understanding this, you are just fodder for other delusional weak humans.

I don't teach anything except for methods for you to get free of delusional nonsense like Evodelusion and any religious nonsense.

All religious crap needs to be removed from public schools. Evodelusionism is a bunch of religious crap, with no evidence.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by ThunderF00tslefttesticle on Feb 9th, 2010 at 10:13pm
"I have been tested with an IQ over 180"
If the populace they are comparing it to are mentally slow maybe.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by metha on Feb 10th, 2010 at 1:21am
He has been tested by a PhD, and as GSFY has taught you: PhD's know nothing.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by GoodScienceForYou on Feb 13th, 2010 at 10:31am

metha wrote on Feb 10th, 2010 at 1:21am:
He has been tested by a PhD, and as GSFY has taught you: PhD's know nothing.



You need to apologize to me.  Having a difference of knowledge is no reason for you to become so hateful.
What sort of God do you believe in, a hateful bitter or vengeful one, or a loving God that teaches you to open your mind up to ideas that differ from your precious beliefs?


Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by GoodScienceForYou on Feb 13th, 2010 at 10:35am

metha wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 9:54am:
Are you not able to answer any of my question on the Einsteinian physics? You say you understand Einstein, so again... tell me: What did Einstein mean about relativity of time? What is the KEY observation that should make you (with an IQ of 180) able to deduce lots of the results in Einsteins theory of relativity? What is it? Answer will come (if you cannot give it) later.

If you cannot answer any of this, you do not understand Einstein, and so hence you are proven to be a fraud.



You are not able to answer my questions on Einstein's theories.
I will answer it for you. There is only one of his theories that has any merit and has been repeatedly tested to be functional.
Do you know which one that is?

Einstein's relativity of time so far has not been tested.  I think he made this up to stump people into thinking he understood time.   Sort of putting this out there, knowing darn well nobody could refute it because it can't be tested.

He was a "one hit wonder" as far as I can tell.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by GoodScienceForYou on Feb 13th, 2010 at 10:57am

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 6:45am:
When you CANT prove people are wrong, you have no reason to not believe them..............unless you are too stupid or too scared to believe.

For if you CANT prove them wrong, what reason do you have for not believing them?  NONE!

If you could prove them wrong, then THAT will be your reason for not believing.

So, GSFY, you need to work on trying to prove us wrong, for if you CANT then will only assume you are too stupid or too scared to believe us!

What other reason could there be?????????


Your statements are the most backwards I have read yet.

The reality is if you have no way to prove that you have any reason to beleive in something, then one would think there is something wrong with a person who believes because other delusional people believe with no evidence to back the belief.

You have been taught out of the logic and reason you were born with.  If something has no physical evidence, that is irrefutable, obvious, has no other plausibilities, and can be demonstrated in the here and now, and has no friggin opinions in it, then that would be reason to believe.

Since that evidence does not exist and all I have ever seen on this evodelusionism is faith and belief with only opinions from "experts" (delusional believers), there is no way I am ever going to say this nonsense is real.

You need to read about how "falsification" is a brainwashing technique that was put in science as way to perpetuate nonsense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_5CJzKB9b4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4--Frypeg00

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 13th, 2010 at 12:37pm

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 9:24am:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 8:14am:
The problem is your mind is so weak that you can't see how your actions radiate out from you and come back to you. ]]]]]]

SIGH.............Really starting to think that you CANT show me where I am wrong.

But I will continue to ask you to prove me wrong, and I BET my life that you just CANT do it!

Since you CANT prove me wrong, please tell me of the reason you CANT believe what you can't prove wrong.  Stupidity or FEAR??????


Man, I hope you prove FEAR for your own sake! LOL


You are afraid of me, because you know in your heart that I am correct about your religious garbage beliefs in Evodelusionism.



First, people on this board have proven that evolution is not a religion, and you have YET to prove them wrong.

Why do you continue to say things that have been proven wrong??




Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 13th, 2010 at 1:01pm

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 9:24am:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 8:14am:
The problem is your mind is so weak that you can't see how your actions radiate out from you and come back to you. ]]]]]]

SIGH.............Really starting to think that you CANT show me where I am wrong.

But I will continue to ask you to prove me wrong, and I BET my life that you just CANT do it!

Since you CANT prove me wrong, please tell me of the reason you CANT believe what you can't prove wrong.  Stupidity or FEAR??????


Man, I hope you prove FEAR for your own sake! LOL


You are afraid of me, because you know in your heart that I am correct about your religious garbage beliefs in Evodelusionism.

Any science that violates the foundation of science can't be called a science. If you can't understand that, then you are really stupid.  Pathetic and lost in deep delusional human garbage beliefs.

You are now banned.  I am sick of repeating the same proof to you over and over, and you saying "it can't be", like I am ever going to believe someone so lost in horseshit. 





I keep proving that evolution is not religious........but can you prove that it is?

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by GoodScienceForYou on Feb 13th, 2010 at 11:09pm

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 13th, 2010 at 1:01pm:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 9:24am:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 8:14am:
The problem is your mind is so weak that you can't see how your actions radiate out from you and come back to you. ]]]]]]

SIGH.............Really starting to think that you CANT show me where I am wrong.

But I will continue to ask you to prove me wrong, and I BET my life that you just CANT do it!

Since you CANT prove me wrong, please tell me of the reason you CANT believe what you can't prove wrong.  Stupidity or FEAR??????


Man, I hope you prove FEAR for your own sake! LOL


You are afraid of me, because you know in your heart that I am correct about your religious garbage beliefs in Evodelusionism.

Any science that violates the foundation of science can't be called a science. If you can't understand that, then you are really stupid.  Pathetic and lost in deep delusional human garbage beliefs.

You are now banned.  I am sick of repeating the same proof to you over and over, and you saying "it can't be", like I am ever going to believe someone so lost in horseshit. 





I keep proving that evolution is not religious........but can you prove that it is?


There are no magical processes, nor mystical creatures in real science.  That only comes in religious beliefs that are drummed into children's heads, other wise known as brainwashing.

It is difficult to realize that you have been fed a pile of garbage, but that is what a person with objective understanding can do.  If you are way too attached to something to even take a look at it from a distance, then that is how it controls you.

I don't like any nonsense to control my thinking. That is why I am successful in my business, by only using what works and not trying to make something that is ridiculous try to fit.


Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 14th, 2010 at 6:37am

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 13th, 2010 at 11:09pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 13th, 2010 at 1:01pm:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 9:24am:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 8:14am:
The problem is your mind is so weak that you can't see how your actions radiate out from you and come back to you. ]]]]]]

SIGH.............Really starting to think that you CANT show me where I am wrong.

But I will continue to ask you to prove me wrong, and I BET my life that you just CANT do it!

Since you CANT prove me wrong, please tell me of the reason you CANT believe what you can't prove wrong.  Stupidity or FEAR??????


Man, I hope you prove FEAR for your own sake! LOL


You are afraid of me, because you know in your heart that I am correct about your religious garbage beliefs in Evodelusionism.

Any science that violates the foundation of science can't be called a science. If you can't understand that, then you are really stupid.  Pathetic and lost in deep delusional human garbage beliefs.

You are now banned.  I am sick of repeating the same proof to you over and over, and you saying "it can't be", like I am ever going to believe someone so lost in horseshit. 





I keep proving that evolution is not religious........but can you prove that it is?


There are no magical processes, nor mystical creatures in real science.  That only comes in religious beliefs that are drummed into children's heads, other wise known as brainwashing.

It is difficult to realize that you have been fed a pile of feculence, but that is what a person with objective understanding can do.  If you are way too attached to something to even take a look at it from a distance, then that is how it controls you.

I don't like any nonsense to control my thinking. That is why I am successful in my business, by only using what works and not trying to make something that is ridiculous try to fit.




Again, keep trying to prove me wrong and when you do let me know! 

Better yet, keep LYING by saying that random or evolution are magical....................then claim that there are no magical processes in science.

This does not prove me wrong, for I have never said or EVEN thought that random or evolution was magical.

You need to PROVE it is instead of just beating around the bush.  Try just once. K!  When you CANT, you will just ramble and say things that people dont believe just to make yourself look right!  CLASSIC!

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 14th, 2010 at 6:49am

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 13th, 2010 at 11:09pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 13th, 2010 at 1:01pm:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 9:24am:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 8:14am:
The problem is your mind is so weak that you can't see how your actions radiate out from you and come back to you. ]]]]]]

SIGH.............Really starting to think that you CANT show me where I am wrong.

But I will continue to ask you to prove me wrong, and I BET my life that you just CANT do it!

Since you CANT prove me wrong, please tell me of the reason you CANT believe what you can't prove wrong.  Stupidity or FEAR??????


Man, I hope you prove FEAR for your own sake! LOL


You are afraid of me, because you know in your heart that I am correct about your religious garbage beliefs in Evodelusionism.

Any science that violates the foundation of science can't be called a science. If you can't understand that, then you are really stupid.  Pathetic and lost in deep delusional human garbage beliefs.

You are now banned.  I am sick of repeating the same proof to you over and over, and you saying "it can't be", like I am ever going to believe someone so lost in horseshit. 





I keep proving that evolution is not religious........but can you prove that it is?


There are no magical processes, nor mystical creatures in real science.  That only comes in religious beliefs that are drummed into children's heads, other wise known as brainwashing.

It is difficult to realize that you have been fed a pile of feculence, but that is what a person with objective understanding can do.  If you are way too attached to something to even take a look at it from a distance, then that is how it controls you.

I don't like any nonsense to control my thinking. That is why I am successful in my business, by only using what works and not trying to make something that is ridiculous try to fit.



Just because you believe in magical processes does not mean they are a part of science.  Those only come from religious beliefs that are drummed into children's heads via fear and the unknown.

I see that you have been fed a pile of COW feculence, but that is what I expect from people that let their emotions control have an influence on their beliefs.  If you are too attached to something to even take a look at it from a distance, then of course, that is how it controls you.  Sorry you are having a hard time realizing this.  FEAR will make you do some crazy things.

I don't like bullshitters and don't let them control my thinking.  YOu should really take a step back, take a deep breath and stop letting incoherent, asinine, insidious logic control your beliefs out of fear!

Since I don't let bullshitters influence my beliefs, that's the reason I have a successful medical practice.  I only use what works and never try to make some ridiculous fit, just becuase I FEAR not trying to make it fit.

I can debate and say the SAME mumbo jumbo about you!  Let's see how far it gets us.   If it does not get us very far, we might just have to change how we discuss.

But I can ramble with the best of them!!!! LMAO!

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by GoodScienceForYou on Feb 14th, 2010 at 12:42pm

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 14th, 2010 at 6:49am:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 13th, 2010 at 11:09pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 13th, 2010 at 1:01pm:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 9:24am:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 8:14am:
The problem is your mind is so weak that you can't see how your actions radiate out from you and come back to you. ]]]]]]

SIGH.............Really starting to think that you CANT show me where I am wrong.

But I will continue to ask you to prove me wrong, and I BET my life that you just CANT do it!

Since you CANT prove me wrong, please tell me of the reason you CANT believe what you can't prove wrong.  Stupidity or FEAR??????


Man, I hope you prove FEAR for your own sake! LOL


You are afraid of me, because you know in your heart that I am correct about your religious garbage beliefs in Evodelusionism.

Any science that violates the foundation of science can't be called a science. If you can't understand that, then you are really stupid.  Pathetic and lost in deep delusional human garbage beliefs.

You are now banned.  I am sick of repeating the same proof to you over and over, and you saying "it can't be", like I am ever going to believe someone so lost in horseshit. 





I keep proving that evolution is not religious........but can you prove that it is?


There are no magical processes, nor mystical creatures in real science.  That only comes in religious beliefs that are drummed into children's heads, other wise known as brainwashing.

It is difficult to realize that you have been fed a pile of feculence, but that is what a person with objective understanding can do.  If you are way too attached to something to even take a look at it from a distance, then that is how it controls you.

I don't like any nonsense to control my thinking. That is why I am successful in my business, by only using what works and not trying to make something that is ridiculous try to fit.



Just because you believe in magical processes does not mean they are a part of science.  Those only come from religious beliefs that are drummed into children's heads via fear and the unknown.

I see that you have been fed a pile of COW feculence, but that is what I expect from people that let their emotions control have an influence on their beliefs.  If you are too attached to something to even take a look at it from a distance, then of course, that is how it controls you.  Sorry you are having a hard time realizing this.  FEAR will make you do some crazy things.

I don't like bullshitters and don't let them control my thinking.  YOu should really take a step back, take a deep breath and stop letting incoherent, asinine, insidious logic control your beliefs out of fear!

Since I don't let bullshitters influence my beliefs, that's the reason I have a successful medical practice.  I only use what works and never try to make some ridiculous fit, just becuase I FEAR not trying to make it fit.

I can debate and say the SAME mumbo jumbo about you!  Let's see how far it gets us.   If it does not get us very far, we might just have to change how we discuss.

But I can ramble with the best of them!!!! LMAO!



This is not a good defense for you.  You need to take a look at what those "kind and loving" people have done to you.

You cannot be an atheist and belive in mystical nonsense.

I am sorry.  I have no religion.  I don't want any religion between me and the truth.  I avoid all religious nonsense.

You are obviously brainwashed.  You need to just try to understand what is right in front of you first. Try getting into some part of reality. Stop projecting religious nonsense on your life.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by GoodScienceForYou on Feb 14th, 2010 at 12:48pm
"A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be."

Albert Einstien.


Where is your absolute evidence for evolution.  It must be physical, irrefutable, have no other plausibilities, and has no opinions in it? 

This is what I require for any acceptance of any human ideas or beliefs.  If you don't have this level of protection on your intellect, you are just an easy target for delusions.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 14th, 2010 at 1:06pm

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 14th, 2010 at 12:42pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 14th, 2010 at 6:49am:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 13th, 2010 at 11:09pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 13th, 2010 at 1:01pm:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 9:24am:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 8:14am:
The problem is your mind is so weak that you can't see how your actions radiate out from you and come back to you. ]]]]]]

SIGH.............Really starting to think that you CANT show me where I am wrong.

But I will continue to ask you to prove me wrong, and I BET my life that you just CANT do it!

Since you CANT prove me wrong, please tell me of the reason you CANT believe what you can't prove wrong.  Stupidity or FEAR??????


Man, I hope you prove FEAR for your own sake! LOL


You are afraid of me, because you know in your heart that I am correct about your religious garbage beliefs in Evodelusionism.

Any science that violates the foundation of science can't be called a science. If you can't understand that, then you are really stupid.  Pathetic and lost in deep delusional human garbage beliefs.

You are now banned.  I am sick of repeating the same proof to you over and over, and you saying "it can't be", like I am ever going to believe someone so lost in horseshit. 





I keep proving that evolution is not religious........but can you prove that it is?


There are no magical processes, nor mystical creatures in real science.  That only comes in religious beliefs that are drummed into children's heads, other wise known as brainwashing.

It is difficult to realize that you have been fed a pile of feculence, but that is what a person with objective understanding can do.  If you are way too attached to something to even take a look at it from a distance, then that is how it controls you.

I don't like any nonsense to control my thinking. That is why I am successful in my business, by only using what works and not trying to make something that is ridiculous try to fit.



Just because you believe in magical processes does not mean they are a part of science.  Those only come from religious beliefs that are drummed into children's heads via fear and the unknown.

I see that you have been fed a pile of COW feculence, but that is what I expect from people that let their emotions control have an influence on their beliefs.  If you are too attached to something to even take a look at it from a distance, then of course, that is how it controls you.  Sorry you are having a hard time realizing this.  FEAR will make you do some crazy things.

I don't like bullshitters and don't let them control my thinking.  YOu should really take a step back, take a deep breath and stop letting incoherent, asinine, insidious logic control your beliefs out of fear!

Since I don't let bullshitters influence my beliefs, that's the reason I have a successful medical practice.  I only use what works and never try to make some ridiculous fit, just becuase I FEAR not trying to make it fit.

I can debate and say the SAME mumbo jumbo about you!  Let's see how far it gets us.   If it does not get us very far, we might just have to change how we discuss.

But I can ramble with the best of them!!!! LMAO!



This is not a good defense for you.  You need to take a look at what those "kind and loving" people have done to you.

You cannot be an atheist and belive in mystical nonsense.

I am sorry.  I have no religion.  I don't want any religion between me and the truth.  I avoid all religious nonsense.

You are obviously brainwashed.  You need to just try to understand what is right in front of you first. Try getting into some part of reality. Stop projecting religious nonsense on your life.



You need to take a step back and examine what people have  taught to you. Your arguments are untenable.

You cant be a God=Truth believer and then believe in magical processes. 

I am sorry, but I have no religion.  I dont want any religion between me  and the truth, so I avoid all religious crap.

You are obviously brainwashed. You need to just try to understand what is right in front of you first.  Try getting into some aspect of reality next time.  Stop projecting religious BULLS&^* on your life!

SEE, I can do the exact same thing.

All I had to do was change 'atheist' with 'god=truth' believer and the SAME thing applies to you.

SEE, you just ramble and NEVER address any real claims! 

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by GoodScienceForYou on Feb 14th, 2010 at 3:08pm

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 14th, 2010 at 1:06pm:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 14th, 2010 at 12:42pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 14th, 2010 at 6:49am:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 13th, 2010 at 11:09pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 13th, 2010 at 1:01pm:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 9:24am:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 8:14am:
The problem is your mind is so weak that you can't see how your actions radiate out from you and come back to you. ]]]]]]

SIGH.............Really starting to think that you CANT show me where I am wrong.

But I will continue to ask you to prove me wrong, and I BET my life that you just CANT do it!

Since you CANT prove me wrong, please tell me of the reason you CANT believe what you can't prove wrong.  Stupidity or FEAR??????


Man, I hope you prove FEAR for your own sake! LOL


You are afraid of me, because you know in your heart that I am correct about your religious garbage beliefs in Evodelusionism.

Any science that violates the foundation of science can't be called a science. If you can't understand that, then you are really stupid.  Pathetic and lost in deep delusional human garbage beliefs.

You are now banned.  I am sick of repeating the same proof to you over and over, and you saying "it can't be", like I am ever going to believe someone so lost in horseshit. 





I keep proving that evolution is not religious........but can you prove that it is?


There are no magical processes, nor mystical creatures in real science.  That only comes in religious beliefs that are drummed into children's heads, other wise known as brainwashing.

It is difficult to realize that you have been fed a pile of feculence, but that is what a person with objective understanding can do.  If you are way too attached to something to even take a look at it from a distance, then that is how it controls you.

I don't like any nonsense to control my thinking. That is why I am successful in my business, by only using what works and not trying to make something that is ridiculous try to fit.



Just because you believe in magical processes does not mean they are a part of science.  Those only come from religious beliefs that are drummed into children's heads via fear and the unknown.

I see that you have been fed a pile of COW feculence, but that is what I expect from people that let their emotions control have an influence on their beliefs.  If you are too attached to something to even take a look at it from a distance, then of course, that is how it controls you.  Sorry you are having a hard time realizing this.  FEAR will make you do some crazy things.

I don't like bullshitters and don't let them control my thinking.  YOu should really take a step back, take a deep breath and stop letting incoherent, asinine, insidious logic control your beliefs out of fear!

Since I don't let bullshitters influence my beliefs, that's the reason I have a successful medical practice.  I only use what works and never try to make some ridiculous fit, just becuase I FEAR not trying to make it fit.

I can debate and say the SAME mumbo jumbo about you!  Let's see how far it gets us.   If it does not get us very far, we might just have to change how we discuss.

But I can ramble with the best of them!!!! LMAO!



This is not a good defense for you.  You need to take a look at what those "kind and loving" people have done to you.

You cannot be an atheist and belive in mystical nonsense.

I am sorry.  I have no religion.  I don't want any religion between me and the truth.  I avoid all religious nonsense.

You are obviously brainwashed.  You need to just try to understand what is right in front of you first. Try getting into some part of reality. Stop projecting religious nonsense on your life.



You need to take a step back and examine what people have  taught to you. Your arguments are untenable.

You cant be a God=Truth believer and then believe in magical processes. 

I am sorry, but I have no religion.  I dont want any religion between me  and the truth, so I avoid all religious crap.

You are obviously brainwashed. You need to just try to understand what is right in front of you first.  Try getting into some aspect of reality next time.  Stop projecting religious BULLS&^* on your life!

SEE, I can do the exact same thing.

All I had to do was change 'atheist' with 'god=truth' believer and the SAME thing applies to you.

SEE, you just ramble and NEVER address any real claims! 


First of all, I got all of my information on genetic, evolution, ERV's, fossils from academia's views.   I was able to see the logical fallacies immediately as each premise was presented to me.

A person who is a guardian over what they accept, will not accept anything that is illogical or has no physical evidence.
They do not lay down like a bitch dog for some scientist teaching crap.

It is obviously a religious belief, having no physical evidence.

You, also, have not produced any evidence that is irrefutable, physical, has no other plausibilities, and is not based on some weak humans or group of weak human's opinions.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 14th, 2010 at 5:21pm

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 14th, 2010 at 3:08pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 14th, 2010 at 1:06pm:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 14th, 2010 at 12:42pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 14th, 2010 at 6:49am:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 13th, 2010 at 11:09pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 13th, 2010 at 1:01pm:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 9:24am:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 8:14am:
The problem is your mind is so weak that you can't see how your actions radiate out from you and come back to you. ]]]]]]

SIGH.............Really starting to think that you CANT show me where I am wrong.

But I will continue to ask you to prove me wrong, and I BET my life that you just CANT do it!

Since you CANT prove me wrong, please tell me of the reason you CANT believe what you can't prove wrong.  Stupidity or FEAR??????


Man, I hope you prove FEAR for your own sake! LOL


You are afraid of me, because you know in your heart that I am correct about your religious garbage beliefs in Evodelusionism.

Any science that violates the foundation of science can't be called a science. If you can't understand that, then you are really stupid.  Pathetic and lost in deep delusional human garbage beliefs.

You are now banned.  I am sick of repeating the same proof to you over and over, and you saying "it can't be", like I am ever going to believe someone so lost in horseshit. 





I keep proving that evolution is not religious........but can you prove that it is?


There are no magical processes, nor mystical creatures in real science.  That only comes in religious beliefs that are drummed into children's heads, other wise known as brainwashing.

It is difficult to realize that you have been fed a pile of feculence, but that is what a person with objective understanding can do.  If you are way too attached to something to even take a look at it from a distance, then that is how it controls you.

I don't like any nonsense to control my thinking. That is why I am successful in my business, by only using what works and not trying to make something that is ridiculous try to fit.



Just because you believe in magical processes does not mean they are a part of science.  Those only come from religious beliefs that are drummed into children's heads via fear and the unknown.

I see that you have been fed a pile of COW feculence, but that is what I expect from people that let their emotions control have an influence on their beliefs.  If you are too attached to something to even take a look at it from a distance, then of course, that is how it controls you.  Sorry you are having a hard time realizing this.  FEAR will make you do some crazy things.

I don't like bullshitters and don't let them control my thinking.  YOu should really take a step back, take a deep breath and stop letting incoherent, asinine, insidious logic control your beliefs out of fear!

Since I don't let bullshitters influence my beliefs, that's the reason I have a successful medical practice.  I only use what works and never try to make some ridiculous fit, just becuase I FEAR not trying to make it fit.

I can debate and say the SAME mumbo jumbo about you!  Let's see how far it gets us.   If it does not get us very far, we might just have to change how we discuss.

But I can ramble with the best of them!!!! LMAO!



This is not a good defense for you.  You need to take a look at what those "kind and loving" people have done to you.

You cannot be an atheist and belive in mystical nonsense.

I am sorry.  I have no religion.  I don't want any religion between me and the truth.  I avoid all religious nonsense.

You are obviously brainwashed.  You need to just try to understand what is right in front of you first. Try getting into some part of reality. Stop projecting religious nonsense on your life.



You need to take a step back and examine what people have  taught to you. Your arguments are untenable.

You cant be a God=Truth believer and then believe in magical processes. 

I am sorry, but I have no religion.  I dont want any religion between me  and the truth, so I avoid all religious crap.

You are obviously brainwashed. You need to just try to understand what is right in front of you first.  Try getting into some aspect of reality next time.  Stop projecting religious BULLS&^* on your life!

SEE, I can do the exact same thing.

All I had to do was change 'atheist' with 'god=truth' believer and the SAME thing applies to you.

SEE, you just ramble and NEVER address any real claims! 


First of all, I got all of my information on genetic, evolution, ERV's, fossils from academia's views.   I was able to see the logical fallacies immediately as each premise was presented to me.

A person who is a guardian over what they accept, will not accept anything that is illogical or has no physical evidence.
They do not lay down like a bitch dog for some scientist teaching crap.

It is obviously a religious belief, having no physical evidence.

You, also, have not produced any evidence that is irrefutable, physical, has no other plausibilities, and is not based on some weak humans or group of weak human's opinions.


You got it from CREATIONISTS websites and they are FEARFUL of punishment of a god.  They are brainwashed by FEAR! LOL  Really starting to laugh now! LMAO!

A person who is a guardian over what they accept, will not accept anything that is illogical or has no physical evidence.
They do not lay down like a bitch dog for some BELIEVER teaching crap.

It is obviously a religious belief, having no physical evidence whatsoever to back it up!! LOL





Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 14th, 2010 at 5:23pm
You, also, have not produced any evidence that is irrefutable, physical, has no other plausibilities, and is not based on some weak humans or group of weak human's opinions.[/quote]


SADLY, you dont read that well, for I clearly told you that you CANT believe them when I tell them to you and LOOK...........here we are with you still not able to believe.

When are you going to get it?  Or can you? LMAO!!!!!




Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 14th, 2010 at 5:27pm
You, also, have not produced any evidence that is irrefutable, physical, has no other plausibilities, and is not based on some weak humans or group of weak human's opinions.[/quote]


WHAHAHAH!!

If you believed the evidence I provided, your God will punish you.

So, how in the HELL are you going to be able to beleive something in which your God promises to punish you if you do??  YOU CANT!!!!

And I know you can't because we are still here and you still CANT believe the evidence.

Sadly, you are not honest enough to tell someone why you CANT!  It is because your God will punish you or because the evidence is wrong.

If the evidence is wrong, then SHOW/PROVE it to us and stop saying that it is magical................when NO EVOLUTIONIST on this forum believes that it is.  That is YOUR LIE, not ours.  But typical of people that are too scared to believe.  They just can't do it.  They will do anything to keep from believing.

Even CONTINUE to say that random is magical, when NOT ONE person on this forum says that it is.  SEE what I mean or will you just RUN from this again.  It is ok, I don't expect you to acknowledge ONE point I made.

FEARFUL people will avoid my statements just to so they can continue to think the are right.  Let's see if you avoid my questions and statements, which will prove if you have FEAR or not!

I will wait! LMAO!

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by GoodScienceForYou on Feb 14th, 2010 at 7:26pm

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 14th, 2010 at 5:27pm:
You, also, have not produced any evidence that is irrefutable, physical, has no other plausibilities, and is not based on some weak humans or group of weak human's opinions.



WHAHAHAH!!

If you believed the evidence I provided, your God will punish you.

So, how in the HELL are you going to be able to beleive something in which your God promises to punish you if you do??  YOU CANT!!!!

And I know you can't because we are still here and you still CANT believe the evidence.

Sadly, you are not honest enough to tell someone why you CANT!  It is because your God will punish you or because the evidence is wrong.

If the evidence is wrong, then SHOW/PROVE it to us and stop saying that it is magical................when NO EVOLUTIONIST on this forum believes that it is.  That is YOUR LIE, not ours.  But typical of people that are too scared to believe.  They just can't do it.  They will do anything to keep from believing.

Even CONTINUE to say that random is magical, when NOT ONE person on this forum says that it is.  SEE what I mean or will you just RUN from this again.  It is ok, I don't expect you to acknowledge ONE point I made.

FEARFUL people will avoid my statements just to so they can continue to think the are right.  Let's see if you avoid my questions and statements, which will prove if you have FEAR or not!

I will wait! LMAO!
[/quote]

People often get angry when confronted with the truth about themselves.  Instead of all this rage, just look at what you have become, because you have no evidence and clearly are just a  believer in unproven religious beliefs. Evodelusionism is a religion.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by RealScienceForMe on Feb 14th, 2010 at 8:42pm

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 14th, 2010 at 7:26pm:
People often get angry when confronted with the truth about themselves.


True, but that's no excuse for banning people.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by GoodScienceForYou on Feb 15th, 2010 at 10:36am

RealScienceForMe wrote on Feb 14th, 2010 at 8:42pm:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 14th, 2010 at 7:26pm:
People often get angry when confronted with the truth about themselves.


True, but that's no excuse for banning people.


On this forum, I set up rules and so I have to enforce them.

When people start getting totally out of control, they need to have a chill out time and reflect.
There is nothing wrong with that.  It also allows me to chill out.
I want the forum to be productive and it is.  You are all starting to see that there are other more realistic ways to observe life.
You are learning that people impose beliefs on what they think they see and that screws up any form of objectivity.
Once you are a believer, you have lost all objectiveness.

You should never believe anyone on any subject.  You need to seek your own truth.  That is what my father taught me, because he realized that people are full of agendas, based on false beliefs. He realized that money motivates them to protect their beliefs.  His theory on humans has never failed to be true.  This has protected me from falling for a lot of human emotional mental garbage.

It has benefited my life in all ways.
It has given me clarity of mind so that I can find the truth in most matters of science.  I can instantly see logical fallacies.

Life is way to short to waste on fantasy. The truth is far more exciting and interesting.

As each veil of ignorance is removed (delusional nonsense) you get a lot of "Ah HA's".  As you wake up from your life of dreams and fantasy.   Humans are good at that crap.

There is no such thing as Evolution. It is not scientific.  It is religious.  That is why you can't find any real evidence for it and present it to me.  I keep asking the same thing and all you produce is opinions from believers and no physical evidence to back it.

I would think by now that you would at least start to understand that real evidence is NOT opinions.

I learned very early on to never listen to anyone's dissertation as to why something proves this or proves that.
There opinions are always worthless to me, because they have agendas.
I just look at the evidence and see where it takes me, not where it takes the brainwashed believers.  I understand their logic which is flawed and it is flawed from indoctrination, brainwashing.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 15th, 2010 at 11:21am

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 14th, 2010 at 7:26pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 14th, 2010 at 5:27pm:
You, also, have not produced any evidence that is irrefutable, physical, has no other plausibilities, and is not based on some weak humans or group of weak human's opinions.



WHAHAHAH!!

If you believed the evidence I provided, your God will punish you.

So, how in the HELL are you going to be able to beleive something in which your God promises to punish you if you do??  YOU CANT!!!!

And I know you can't because we are still here and you still CANT believe the evidence.

Sadly, you are not honest enough to tell someone why you CANT!  It is because your God will punish you or because the evidence is wrong.

If the evidence is wrong, then SHOW/PROVE it to us and stop saying that it is magical................when NO EVOLUTIONIST on this forum believes that it is.  That is YOUR LIE, not ours.  But typical of people that are too scared to believe.  They just can't do it.  They will do anything to keep from believing.

Even CONTINUE to say that random is magical, when NOT ONE person on this forum says that it is.  SEE what I mean or will you just RUN from this again.  It is ok, I don't expect you to acknowledge ONE point I made.

FEARFUL people will avoid my statements just to so they can continue to think the are right.  Let's see if you avoid my questions and statements, which will prove if you have FEAR or not!

I will wait! LMAO!


People often get angry when confronted with the truth about themselves.  Instead of all this rage, just look at what you have become, because you have no evidence and clearly are just a  believer in unproven religious beliefs. Evodelusionism is a religion.
[/quote]


WHAHA!  I knew you would not address ANYTHING I said.  I even predicted you would do exactly what you did.

As I have said before, when you CANT prove people are wrong, you will RUN from what they say.  You keep proving that your beliefs are just nothing but a bunch of cow feculence.

CLASSIC! LMAO!

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by GoodScienceForYou on Feb 17th, 2010 at 3:37pm
Here again is the question that any sane person would require before accepting any system of "science".

Where is your absolute evidence for evolution?  I must be physical, irrefutable, have no other plausibilities, and no opinions are considered to be evidence.

If you can't answer this question, then you are not sane if you believe in evolution.

This question is called a real scientific question.  It contains no bovine garbage, it cannot be refuted as THE question any sane person needs to form any acceptance of anything.
It is a truth only seeking question.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 17th, 2010 at 10:06pm

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 17th, 2010 at 3:37pm:
Here again is the question that any sane person would require before accepting any system of "science".

Where is your absolute evidence for evolution?  I must be physical, irrefutable, have no other plausibilities, and no opinions are considered to be evidence.

If you can't answer this question, then you are not sane if you believe in evolution.

This question is called a real scientific question.  It contains no bovine feculence, it cannot be refuted as THE question any sane person needs to form any acceptance of anything.
It is a truth only seeking question.


Yawn........ just because your God will punish you for believing it, does not mean I did not provide it!

Its just that you will get punished for believing it, so there is no way you can believe it when we provide it.  You will get punished if you do and I pity you if this scares you enough to influence your beliefs!

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 17th, 2010 at 10:17pm

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 17th, 2010 at 3:37pm:
Here again is the question that any sane person would require before accepting any system of "science".

Where is your absolute evidence for evolution?  I must be physical, irrefutable, have no other plausibilities, and no opinions are considered to be evidence.

If you can't answer this question, then you are not sane if you believe in evolution.

This question is called a real scientific question.  It contains no bovine feculence, it cannot be refuted as THE question any sane person needs to form any acceptance of anything.
It is a truth only seeking question.



Sigh, when you cant prove something wrong, you have no reason to believe it. If you can prove something wrong, then THIS is your reason for not believing it.



Here, let me give you a practical example that you can't prove wrong, no matter how much you try!

"My dog ate all of her food."  Now, you don't have to beleive me, it is your choice, but you could believe me. You have no reason not to.

"My dog jumped to the moon."  NOW, I hope you don't want to believe me, it is your choice, but certainly you would not believe me because of the lack of proof of dogs jumping to the moon.  No dogs have ever been seen, tested, found, analyzed to jump to the moon; therefore my claim is illogical and not easily believed until more proof is provided. 

See how 1 of these is believable without any further evidence, while the other is totally unbelievable until more evidence is provided.


"Humans evolved from primates". Now, you don't have to believe me, it is your choice, but you should be able to believe me............unless you have a reason not to? I wonder what that reason is?  Fear or stupidity?

"Humans evolved from dinosaurs."  NOw, I hope you don't want to believe me, it is your choice, but certainly you would not believe me because of the lack of proof of humans evolving from dinosaurs. There is no evidence that humans did; therefore my claim is illogical until more proof is provided.

See how 1 of these is believable since life adapts to the environment and we have evidence of primate to human evolution, via fossils and DNA...............................while the other is totally unbelievable until more evidence is provided to support the claim?

Or will you just avoid these questions to continue on your rant? Will you ever have some sort of meaningful dialogue, or will that cause you to learn you are wrong?



Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 18th, 2010 at 9:40am

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 17th, 2010 at 10:17pm:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 17th, 2010 at 3:37pm:
Here again is the question that any sane person would require before accepting any system of "science".

Where is your absolute evidence for evolution?  I must be physical, irrefutable, have no other plausibilities, and no opinions are considered to be evidence.

If you can't answer this question, then you are not sane if you believe in evolution.

This question is called a real scientific question.  It contains no bovine feculence, it cannot be refuted as THE question any sane person needs to form any acceptance of anything.
It is a truth only seeking question.



Sigh, when you cant prove something wrong, you have no reason to believe it. If you can prove something wrong, then THIS is your reason for not believing it.



Here, let me give you a practical example that you can't prove wrong, no matter how much you try!

"My dog ate all of her food."  Now, you don't have to beleive me, it is your choice, but you could believe me. You have no reason not to.

"My dog jumped to the moon."  NOW, I hope you don't want to believe me, it is your choice, but certainly you would not believe me because of the lack of proof of dogs jumping to the moon.  No dogs have ever been seen, tested, found, analyzed to jump to the moon; therefore my claim is illogical and not easily believed until more proof is provided. 

See how 1 of these is believable without any further evidence, while the other is totally unbelievable until more evidence is provided.


"Humans evolved from primates". Now, you don't have to believe me, it is your choice, but you should be able to believe me............unless you have a reason not to? I wonder what that reason is?  Fear or stupidity?

"Humans evolved from dinosaurs."  NOw, I hope you don't want to believe me, it is your choice, but certainly you would not believe me because of the lack of proof of humans evolving from dinosaurs. There is no evidence that humans did; therefore my claim is illogical until more proof is provided.

See how 1 of these is believable since life adapts to the environment and we have evidence of primate to human evolution, via fossils and DNA...............................while the other is totally unbelievable until more evidence is provided to support the claim?

Or will you just avoid these questions to continue on your rant? Will you ever have some sort of meaningful dialogue, or will that cause you to learn you are wrong?



I wish you had an edit function on this forum.

The first sentence in the post above should read:
Sigh, when you can prove something wrong, you have no reason to believe it.

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by GoodScienceForYou on Feb 18th, 2010 at 10:06pm

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 18th, 2010 at 9:40am:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 17th, 2010 at 10:17pm:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 17th, 2010 at 3:37pm:
Here again is the question that any sane person would require before accepting any system of "science".

Where is your absolute evidence for evolution?  I must be physical, irrefutable, have no other plausibilities, and no opinions are considered to be evidence.

If you can't answer this question, then you are not sane if you believe in evolution.

This question is called a real scientific question.  It contains no bovine feculence, it cannot be refuted as THE question any sane person needs to form any acceptance of anything.
It is a truth only seeking question.



Sigh, when you cant prove something wrong, you have no reason to believe it. If you can prove something wrong, then THIS is your reason for not believing it.



Here, let me give you a practical example that you can't prove wrong, no matter how much you try!

"My dog ate all of her food."  Now, you don't have to beleive me, it is your choice, but you could believe me. You have no reason not to.

"My dog jumped to the moon."  NOW, I hope you don't want to believe me, it is your choice, but certainly you would not believe me because of the lack of proof of dogs jumping to the moon.  No dogs have ever been seen, tested, found, analyzed to jump to the moon; therefore my claim is illogical and not easily believed until more proof is provided. 

See how 1 of these is believable without any further evidence, while the other is totally unbelievable until more evidence is provided.


"Humans evolved from primates". Now, you don't have to believe me, it is your choice, but you should be able to believe me............unless you have a reason not to? I wonder what that reason is?  Fear or stupidity?

"Humans evolved from dinosaurs."  NOw, I hope you don't want to believe me, it is your choice, but certainly you would not believe me because of the lack of proof of humans evolving from dinosaurs. There is no evidence that humans did; therefore my claim is illogical until more proof is provided.

See how 1 of these is believable since life adapts to the environment and we have evidence of primate to human evolution, via fossils and DNA...............................while the other is totally unbelievable until more evidence is provided to support the claim?

Or will you just avoid these questions to continue on your rant? Will you ever have some sort of meaningful dialogue, or will that cause you to learn you are wrong?



I wish you had an edit function on this forum.

The first sentence in the post above should read:
Sigh, when you can prove something wrong, you have no reason to believe it.



What has happened to your mind?

Title: Re: When you CANT prove people wrong.......
Post by MajorAtheist on Feb 19th, 2010 at 5:57pm

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 18th, 2010 at 10:06pm:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 18th, 2010 at 9:40am:

MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 17th, 2010 at 10:17pm:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 17th, 2010 at 3:37pm:
Here again is the question that any sane person would require before accepting any system of "science".

Where is your absolute evidence for evolution?  I must be physical, irrefutable, have no other plausibilities, and no opinions are considered to be evidence.

If you can't answer this question, then you are not sane if you believe in evolution.

This question is called a real scientific question.  It contains no bovine feculence, it cannot be refuted as THE question any sane person needs to form any acceptance of anything.
It is a truth only seeking question.



Sigh, when you cant prove something wrong, you have no reason to believe it. If you can prove something wrong, then THIS is your reason for not believing it.



Here, let me give you a practical example that you can't prove wrong, no matter how much you try!

"My dog ate all of her food."  Now, you don't have to beleive me, it is your choice, but you could believe me. You have no reason not to.

"My dog jumped to the moon."  NOW, I hope you don't want to believe me, it is your choice, but certainly you would not believe me because of the lack of proof of dogs jumping to the moon.  No dogs have ever been seen, tested, found, analyzed to jump to the moon; therefore my claim is illogical and not easily believed until more proof is provided. 

See how 1 of these is believable without any further evidence, while the other is totally unbelievable until more evidence is provided.


"Humans evolved from primates". Now, you don't have to believe me, it is your choice, but you should be able to believe me............unless you have a reason not to? I wonder what that reason is?  Fear or stupidity?

"Humans evolved from dinosaurs."  NOw, I hope you don't want to believe me, it is your choice, but certainly you would not believe me because of the lack of proof of humans evolving from dinosaurs. There is no evidence that humans did; therefore my claim is illogical until more proof is provided.

See how 1 of these is believable since life adapts to the environment and we have evidence of primate to human evolution, via fossils and DNA...............................while the other is totally unbelievable until more evidence is provided to support the claim?

Or will you just avoid these questions to continue on your rant? Will you ever have some sort of meaningful dialogue, or will that cause you to learn you are wrong?



I wish you had an edit function on this forum.

The first sentence in the post above should read:
Sigh, when you can prove something wrong, you have no reason to believe it.



What has happened to your mind?



Thanks for showing that you can avoid questions! LOL  And I even predicted that you would do so!  Classic religious believers!

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