I am working on trying to figure out how to insert all the quotes so they are clear who said what. So, I may have to rework this post for clarity. This post has to be made into two parts.
Quote:Well I went and dissected the post anyway, it's nothing like the position I hold so you better learn what my own position is before you start to argue against it
GoodScienceForYou wrote on Nov 21st, 2009 at 12:31pm:Hey Squawk; Thanks for coming over to the site of reason, logic and clear thinking.
Thanks
GoodScienceForYou wrote on Nov 21st, 2009 at 12:31pm:Evodelusionism is a religion, that is commonly called "The Theory of Evolution" with the following precepts and dogma.
Quote:Surely then evodelusionism is a tautology, since there is already a phrase for the concept that informs people what it is. The theory of evolution. Further, this name confers to people the notion that this is a scientific theory. It has no dogma of course, so lets address it line by line.
The religious dogma of this was started by a religion over 2000 years ago and mostly it came from Egypt as I recall.
The purpose of most religious beliefs like this (that are putting God against science) is to remove the idea of god and that the high priests and the pharaoh, kings are your god. That all life originates from them. All of your faith needs to be in their form of "science" which is really not science at all. They make the masses surrender to them as the highest authority. This is like the "obama" phenomenon. The idea that people can save themselves from destruction, is pretty funny. Because they are the cause of the self destruction as in all failing cultures.
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." Albert Einstein
Every fascist, idealistic people who think they can control other people by force, always implodes on itself. It has never ever worked in history.
We all know, historically, that fascist countries always get rid of god in the society. (burn Bibles, burn Koran, Upanishads etc.) That makes people easier to control, because God, "notoriously", takes fear away automatically.
Faith in God is the enemy of greed, lust, avarice, and power.
The only reason for removing God from a culture is to control it and rape the masses.
If you can't use fear on people who put their faith in God, then you can't control them. The way that "evil", "greed" and "dictators" work is to remove religion and faith in God, or to put themselves as the "right hand of God", as a matter of need for the communistic or socialistic fascism principles to operate. Read history.
You want the entire populous to cave to the government and have no free thought. You want all people to have faith in them not in God. That way they, the elite can be rich, and the public is in fear and slaves to the government.
It is pretty clear!
Now again; What empirical, absolute evidence do you have for any part of your belief in evolution? You cannot use any opinions ever. It must be clear, concise, irrefutable, and honest. [/quote]
GoodScienceForYou wrote on Nov 21st, 2009 at 12:31pm:1/ Only the high priests of the cult are allowed to tell you how to think and what evodelusion is. They present the dogma, and if you don't believe you are cast out from the "intellectual" status if you don't cave into all they teach you. If you think for yourself you are made an example of and your career in biology is ruined.
Quote:Interesting idea. It doesn't comport with any of my understanding however, so clearly evodelusion is not the same as the theory of evolution. The theory of evolution is a fluid entity that anyone can change at any time if they can show previous understanding to be in error. It is impossible to define the theory of evolution since it is dynamic, constantly adapting to new information. As such the assertion that anyone can tell you what to think is rendered non-sensical since this would imply the theory to be static.
What I have found is that the number one thing that these evodelusionists say is that "you don't know what you are talking about, because you have not studied in school and you have no degree in this science." The biggest problem for them with me is that I understand this far more than they do and it really pisses them off when I confront the belief at the core and they now have a dilemma, to get free or put blinders on and go on with a bovine garbage life of fantasy.
What that means is that when I took classes on this garbage, I could see immediately there was no evidence to back even the first precepts of the idea of evolution. ( a bunch of moronic believers looking at fossils that they had no idea what they were.) There still isn't. Being highly intelligent I would never want a degree in a dysfunctional bovine garbage: religion disguised as science.
So, I went on to take classes in functional science, in which the science actually has something it could do for mankind and satisfied my intense need for logic and reason and nothing else. I hate bovine garbage being pawned off as science. I hate this, religious, garbage being called science.
So if you can prove 1/ That this crap is really science, by
showing me all of the use of the scientific methods in it. I have never seen the use of the scientific method to test any of the belief, in all the papers on this I have read.
What hypothesis(es) was/were tested by what method to prove any of this magic is real?
What methods of science were used to prove even one premise that would be a good start. I have not see it.
2/The only thing I have seen is an indoctrination into the belief long before the first class in school is taken. And
without the pre-belief forced into the student, there is no foundation in any of the evidence that would even come close to the idea of creatures coming from less complex creatures and by some magic as they break all the laws of genetics and "mutate" into a new species with new features and new genus.
You have to be a brainwashed person to think any of that has any evidence, because as a "tested" sane person who has no delusional beliefs, I cannot see any of the evidence is really evidence for anything but a genetic stability that cannot ever be overcome by any "magic".
The belief causes "magical thinking" in which the belief is projected on the evidence, but the evidence does not support the belief at all, when a sane person studies the evidence. [/quote]
GoodScienceForYou wrote on Nov 21st, 2009 at 12:31pm:2/ The peers are just as nasty. If you don't cave into the belief, you will be put down as "stupid", "cretard", "unscientific", and a plain old "loser". The pressure to conform is extremely strong. Which is why there are so many weak people in this religion.
Quote:Ad homs aside, it's hard to justify labeling as scientific anyone who rejects evidence to conform to doctrine and assertion. I have no idea what this has to do with a definition of the theory of evolution however, so I'll leave it for now.
Even the PHD's in genetics can't argue with me and they can't show me any real evidence that could even be called as using the "scientific method". There is no way to make any evolution take place in the real world. The only thing I have seen is ordinary genetics of traits passed on, some minor adaptations, and no creatures ever breaking the boundaries of genetics. [/quote]
GoodScienceForYou wrote on Nov 21st, 2009 at 12:31pm:3/ In pop culture, the societies which are mostly people who have been forced to belief this crap, because "All the great minds of our time believe in evolution and think it is fact." Most of the people in the culture have never really studied this crap, so they just believe for no reason other than the "scientists" tell them it is real. The "scientists"
are spawn from 1 and 2 above.
Quote:I don't much care what the "great minds" believe, I care about evidence alone. If I were to adhere to the beliefs of the so called "great minds" I would have to accept alchemy for a start (Issac Newton). The beauty of a scientific theory is that it doesn't care who you are, what your name is, what your reputation is or anything else of personal note. It is a fluid entity that stands above the opinions of a person. That is the beauty of the scientific method.
This idea that "the authority" is to be trusted is a huge logical fallacy. The idea that any Evodelusionist has the right to tell the masses anything is sick. They are as blind as you can get about reality. The famous poster of the blind leading the blind is based on this human folly.
Traditionally, believing in mankind has always failed, because mankind is filled with utterly flawed humans and there messed up beliefs.
When some misguided youth tells me that "all the scientists today believe in evolution" as some form of argument, I have to explain the real world to them. That all scientists of old, 100% believed the world was flat and they were regarded as the ultimate authorities back then.
They idealize these fools who are the result of indoctrination and nothing more.
In my humble opinion anyone who really believes in this fairy tale is nuts, weak and stupid. Just like those who like to kill children as part of their ritual religion. These weak humans destroy childrens' minds and retard science.
Now, where is your absolute evidence for evolution that has
no opinions from any of these delusional experts in it. You cannot quote any expert as if their opinion has any value, because they are NOT evidence, they are bovine garbage artists by the fact that they let this crap to be part of their belief.
Objective evidence requires no interpretation for me. I am way ahead of most people on this earth. [/quote]
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