Oicurmtoyoy wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2010 at 12:09pm:


You must be a child.  Bacteria was only in two species long berfore you were born.  The different "strains" were called strains. This definition of species has changed to match this religion.  It is nonsense.

I want you to show me any bacteria that has evolved into something besides bacteria.  You are a really stupid person.

There is no way to determine if some "muitation"has taken place.  Nearly always if you go back and look you will find the same DNA structures are simply repeating.  The problem is these idiots are so stupid they would never think to actually look.

What absolute evidence do you have that any creature has ever evolved into a new genus?  That a fish "evolved" into a reptile (as you are taught) that these reptiles "evolved" into mammals, and birds?   That this magical process eventually caused humans to appear on earth.  So, basically, these idiots think that fish our our ancestors. (Just how stupid do you have to be to believe that?)


The catch is that you cannot use any opinions by anyone.  You must have absolute evidence that is clear, leaves nothing to the imagination, irrefutable, has no other plausibilities and is physical. No inferences, implications, assumptions, nor projections of belief are allowed.

Oicurmtoyoy wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2010 at 10:31am:


You are under the impression that these people you trust actually understand what is going on. They don't and that is clear. They can only project their beliefs on what they think is happening.

They have no idea where these "differences" come from.

There is no such thing as "Random" in science. This concept comes from the fact that people are not capable of understanding even 10 things happening at the same instant and all the inteactions taking place, so they make up a term called "random". Random, violates the first law of science: The Law Of Cause And Result.

Because they have no idea where these differences come from in the DNA that they see, they make up terms to fit the belief in Evodelusionism religion. They are constantly redefining scientific terms to fit an idiotic belief that humans evolved from fish.

If you don't know where this delusional nonsense is taking you, then you are not in control of your mind.  You are owned by those whom you believe in.  Why would you want to be the lay down bitch for some other people's nonsense?

If these fools were to actually do the work to check the DNA of all the ancestors these "random" DNA changes would be shown to be traits passed down and nothing more.

DNA is not the cause of itself.  It is a result of deeper level of programming.

Oicurmtoyoy wrote on Dec 19^th, 2010 at 1:13pm:


Prove that anyone can know the cause of these differences from absolute evidence that is irrefutable, obvious and clear to all.

What is only clear is there are "differences".  Where these come from is not known. So it is impossible to use religious terms like "mutation", based solely on belief, on them.

Do you even understand the meaning and etymology of the term "mutation".  It means basically a change.  If there is no way to prove it is a change from any genetic information in past of the genetic lineage of the creature, then it cannot be classified with any term other than "difference from the parents DNA" or "Different than the DNA was viewed originally".   It is possible that precise and programmed DNA differences are programmed to show up by a logic that you nor anyone understands.  (Random = death in DNA) Normally when people don't understand things and they have positions of authority they will make up words that sound like they know what is going on.  "mutation" is one of those words, like "random". 

Oicurmtoyoy wrote on Dec 19^th, 2010 at 1:13pm:


You are confusing apparent random with actual random.   Apparent random means that we don't have the tools to predict complicated events, so we call them random.

I did a whole long drawn out description of a way to determine the toss of a coin exactly every time it is thrown.  All you really have to have is the necessary equipment to do the measurements with and the calculations with.  It is not that difficult compared to other things. But who, in their right mind, would spend millions upon millions of dollars to determine the outcome of a coin toss or throwing the dice?  After you spent all that money and proved it was possible, the game of craps would be banned from the casinos and the coin toss would never be on the foot ball field again.

In DNA there are only organic structures that rely on stability and accuracy for cell development.  Without that the outcome is only like cancer, cell development out of control and that only leads to death.  If one base pair being messed up (ONE!) by some ACTUAL, NOT MYSTICAL event in the past has caused sickle cell anemia what would happen if 100 to 150 base pairs were really random?  The answer is obvious: DEATH and only death. 

The information that causes the DNA to be different between parents and offspring is UNKNOWN, it is not some random magical process.  The reason for any differences from the original is not known. PERIOD!

If you think that "random mutation" is a scientific term after this, there is no hope for you as a real scientist. It is part of a belief system, based upon human weakness.

From all my study on this in all the papers on "mutations", it is only the organisms desire to survive that is shown after birth takes place.  For instance in the study of cigarette smokers, the conclusion by the scientists who did the study is that the up to 30,000 differences (that were mistakenly called mutations) were shown clearly that the body was PURPOSELY AND INTELLIGENTLY PROGRAMMED AND trying to adapt to survive and only to survive the poisons from smoking. 



Oicurmtoyoy wrote on Dec 19^th, 2010 at 1:13pm:


All that can be witnessed is the "differences" and you can't call them "mutations" unless you can prove absolutely they are really changes from any of the ancestor's DNA!!

If you actually took the time to read this forum, I have answered that more than enough about terms that have been changed.  "mutation" is one of those.    Originally the scientific term referred to "Mutants" or people with genetics screwed up and 99% of the time they can't reproduce, so this never becomes part of the group that is normal and reproduces.  In real science before this crap religious mumbo jumbo took over, a mutation was a person or creature that was a freak.

The idea of "mutation" used in DNA to describe differences is to make it seem plausible that this is a cause of random magical OUT OF CONTROL positive "evolution" when it is just normal differences caused by the foundational genetic creature trying to survive as the same creature and make necessary adjustments to survive.  It calls up on already programmed functions to react to the environment as needed and it reverts when not needed as is seen in the Galapagos finches and in the Italian "wall lizard". Do you understand? 

Oicurmtoyoy wrote on Dec 19^th, 2010 at 1:13pm:


You are under the influence that evolution is some form of normal genetics over time that causes changes to creatures.

The term has been redefined again to give the "indoctrination" meaning to new students to get them brainwashed into eventually thinking that this leads to simple life forms can actually evolve into complex life forms with all the details that make improvements by accident.

The idea that fish can become human over some immense time by magical processes and mystical causes is the real definition of evolution. That is where this mystical nonsense leads people.  Do you realize that if you allow this process of indoctrination to take its full result (cause = indoctrination. result = delusional beliefs) you will believe that humans evolved from fish, even though there is absolutely no physical evidence of that.

If you were really objective, you would realize that not one single positive trait has been added to human kind ever.  All that has taken place is a degradation of the genome with more and more "genetic illnesses" showing up all the time as little defects enter the genome and takes it away from a healthy perfection.   This indicates a devolution into inferior and no improvements at all.  Once these environmental caused defects, hit the genome they do not go away, they get passed down.

I have genetically caused triggers in my genome that caused full onset adult diabetes (just like type 1) at 61 years old.  I am on full insulin with multiple injections daily. It was not caused by diet or anything because my diet has been the best you can get on earth.  Almost no sugar, fresh food, whole grains, no meat, nothing that is known to cause cancer or type 2 diabetes.

Both of my brothers have had amputations because they were unable to concur their compulsive high carbohydrate eating habits.

What you need to do is to not believe what others believe.  You must not conform for the sake of conforming because you will lose yourself and you may never get it back if you allow this to control you.  Only go with that which is proven absolutely to you, and not some nonsense beliefs of this cult like human emotional mental garbage.

There is no such science called "evolution".  It is not science, but is a mythological religion based on a deeply held belief that this makes sense, when it is illogical and based on an ideology that has no evidence to back it.

Listen to this video by Berlinski.  He has multiple degrees in science if that means anything to you.

Bacteria does not evolve when it mutates. It remains as bacteria and does the same thing every time. It digests carbon based foods and makes enzymes. It has a foundational programming based on logic and reasoning.

Example. The nylonase. Every time the Japanese did the experiment with this flavobacterium it did the same thing.
In less than 9 generations it logically perfectly:'
1/ Made a duplicate gene. It chose this gene from all the possible locations on its genome.
2/ It made a frame shift mutation testing it for working.
3/ It made new start and stop codons to complete the new section of gene.

There is NO POSSIBLE WAY for this to be random. There is no mathmatical equation that can fit the purmutations necessary to have this happen by accident in 9 generations. There is no possible way for this to assemble itself from magical ideas.
It is programmed perfectly to do this.
9 generations is nothing in terms of "life".

According to Evolutionists it took 6 million years for "humans" HAR-1 gene to gain 18 mutataions. This whole thing is utterly ridiculous.

The human immune system works in a similar way. It is programmed to respond to new pathogens and make mutations to cover that particular pathogen and to kill it.

The foundation of this is the immune system which according to all the data we have the immune system has only degenerated. This is why over 66% of people have immune degeneration diseases.

When you watch this video it explains exactly why. There is absolutely no way for any net positive evolution to take place.