In science we do not work with reasonable doubt, nor with analogy at all.

Real scientists do not make up fairy tale stories of creatures they know nothing about.
Real scientists do not attempt to make mock ups from bone fragments.
Real scientist never use inference, implication, nor do they force belief on evidence.
Real teachers only teach absolute facts of science. Today we seem to have non of those qualities in teachers of science.
This is why I talk about real science and not this folklore, mystical, magical,  religious nonsense of Evodelusionism.

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In real science we only work with the evidence.   You do not understand that testable, repeatable (millions of times and by any one) is science.  If you can't test for something, then it is not science.  You cannot project belief on evidence.

There is no evidence for evolution at all, and all the evidence only points to:

1/ Creatures appear.
2/ Creatures remain the same for millions of years.
3/ Creatures have gone extinct and looked exactly the same as when they came.
4/ All of the evidence we have on creatures now living and we have their fossils show no evolution, no changing morphology for 110 Million years for the crock, and 125 Million for the mosquito.
5/ There is no evidence in DNA of any evolution.
6/ There is no evolution taking place today. There are no transitional creatures. They all look the same as in the ancient fossils. 

7/ There is only one set of conclusions to all the evidence:
This is all the facts we have, without opinions, and is based on absolute empirical evidence:

A.Creatures come into existence with no trail of any evidence of any transition from anything that came before.

B. All prior versions look the same, but may be bigger, smaller and have a few differences, but is only reflective of the same foundational genetic coding.

C. All the fossil record shows is that creatures remained the same morphology for the entire time they exited and still exist.

D. They never break the boundaries of their foundational genetic coding.

E. Creatures adapt to the environment to survive as the same creatures. They never are forced to evolve by any "magical" process.

F. When the environment becomes to difficult for them to survive, they go extinct.

G. The dating system for replacement fossils is atrocious. It is based on too many assumptions and is not science at all. Dating the ground around the fossils is never the same as dating the bones with historical accuracy.  There is no way to date replacement fossils ACCURATELY. This is why there are so many "out of place" fossils, and you cannot use any of the replacement fossil data with accuracy.

The mythology of this crap belief:

H. There is no such thing as evolutionary pressure that causes creatures to change into completely different species or genus (break the boundaries of their genetic coding).

I. Because there are similar DNA constructs in fish and in humans, for example, does not show any link between humans and fish. It only shows that there are only so many ways to construct body parts in all creatures. There are only so many minerals, so many proteans, so many elements, molecules on this earth. The Earth is finite, not infinite as these foolish, evodelusionsists,  people try to imply.

J. Even when you separate a species for up to 2 million years it is possible for it to breed with the other separated species.  Speciation and not being able to breed with a prior generation is not evidence of evolution. It is evidence of genetics.
--You, for example, may not be able to  breed with an ancient human ancestor, because of the well known facts of genetics.  People who mental masturbate about ways to show "evodelusion" will use crap like this to brainwash people.

K. If creatures remain the same as what they were, there is no evolutoin.

If it remains a lizard and looks the same, there is no evolution.
If it remains as a dog, no evolution.
If it remains as a human, no evolution.
If it remains as bacteria, no evolution.
If it remains as  a fruit fly, no evolution.
Genetics, interbreeding, and hybridization is not evolution.

L. Speciation is not proof of evolution, but just how genetics works for the creatures to survive as the same creatures,  as things in the environment change.

M. To have evolution, you must absolutely prove that creatures have evolved into a new genus or even a completely different member of a new species.  There is no evidence of this on this planet.

N.  ERV's only show a genetic links and interbreeding.  It does not show any evolution no some prior creature that was the common ancestor (This is utter nonsense).  You have to have physical evidence, (the actual mythological) creature with DNA to back this, and there is none.  Without the belief this ERV "evidence" has many plausibilities and each refutes evolution. Evodelusionists never look at any that obviously refute their religious beliefs.  These fools only allow what fits the belief and unfortunately there is plenty of evidence contrary to the belief.

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Your analogy is worthless as all these screwy analogies used to brainwash children.

IF you were to actually open your eyes and not come from the brainwashing, what I teach is easy to see in ALL the evidence.

Now where is you absolute evidence "for" evolution?  It must be physical, irrefutable, have no other plausibility and fits all the evidence perfectly.   It must contain no opinions based on belief.

If you can refute anything I teach, you would have to be a magician.  Non of what I teach comes from any belief. It is based on what we actually have as evidence.

(I don't think I have ever met anyone as delusional as this guy, but I am sure there are others.)

GoodScienceForYou said:  "Real scientists do not make up fairy tale stories of creatures they know nothing about."

MajorAtheist said" Nor do they make up fairy tales about a God=Truth either!  Sorry!"


My answer;

If you are too stupid to realize that in anything that has ever transpired or has ever existed, or has ever manifested or any event, chemical reaction, there is only ONE ABSOLUTE TRUTH about what took place, or transpired.

If you don't have that truth, then you seek it.  If you are not seeking the truth about things in science, then you are only seeking to perpetuate belief.

If you have no evidence, you cannot project belief and faith  on it based on your brainwashing (that causes s-hit colored glasses to distort your vision).

Once you have a belief, you are destroyed as a scientist and are not really a truth seeker.  If the belief put "garbage" over your glasses and does not allow you to see what is right in front of your eyes, then it controls you and you are worthless as a scientist. You should be ashamed of yourself for pretending to be a scientist, as people who promote this mystical nonsense of Evodelusionism in science.

All religious nonsense needs to be removed from science. If you want to teach your children about fairy tale ape people, then do it at home or in some church of nonsense. That is a good name for your religious foundation "The Church of nonsense".

Seeking Truth is the opposite of what you do.  My God is only Truth and nothing else. When I find the truth about something, I tell people about it.

You have lost the ability to see what is real and what is obvious. 

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Feb 21^st, 2010 at 11:55am:

Oh really?

Then why in my thread did you post this?

Quote:


This is an analogy, used by you in lieu of the evidence for your statements I asked you for.

Do I have to define hypocrisy for you too?

GoodScienceForYou said:
"B. All prior versions look the same, but may be bigger, smaller and have a few differences, but is only reflective of the same foundational genetic coding."
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MajorAtheist said:
"Look over the course of millions of years, not from one generation to the next.  How are you going to see a process that takes millions of years, when you have shut your mind to only a few generations or two?

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GoodScienceForYou response:

The evidence from millions of years shows no evolution of any species into a new type of creature. There is no trail of transitional fossils. There is no physical evidence at all for any form of evolution.  If anything all it shows is a complete genealogy of the same creatures.

Your Straw Man is showing.  Since I am a scientist and not a religious fanatic like you, I only go with what is shown in the evidence.  The dating system is atrocious and even if you think it is real, it still shows no trail of evolution on this planet.

If you have a trail of evolution in physical evidence, in fossils and specimens of any creature please present it.  You have to realize that I have looked at literally millions of photos of fossils and looked at mock ups (molded off the original) and real fossils and there are no transitional fossils that have ever been shown to me. They are all distinct completed creatures.

The only absolute evidence we have as shown in ALL the evidence is this:
Creatures adapt to survive as the same creatures. They never want or need to evolve or to become some new creature.

This is absolute in all the evidence.  If you see any thing else or extra garbage, it is from your f**king religious belief.

None of that is evidence.  It is just more opinions.

All of the evidence supports what I have told you.

Creatures come and nobody knows how or why the got here.
They remain the same and either go extinct or just remain the same for as long as they have existed.


If you can find any.  ANY  evidence showing anything else, then please bring it up for review.

Iwannagetspeakywithyou wrote on Feb 21^st, 2010 at 2:54pm:



It would be a good idea if you stuck to the topics.

Where is your absolute evidence for evolution?  It must be physical (not fantasy), irrefutable, having no other plausibilities, and not based solely on opinions from believers.

So far, all the "evidence" given is not really evidence, but opinions on evidence while omitting any other plausibilities.

Now the latest thing is that they are teaching that you don't need physical evidence to show evolution.  That is not science, it is a religion.  Faith and belief are not attributes of a scientist.

When a science person does not review all the data and does not allow other more plausible concepts to be studied, they are no longer scientists, but religious people who use magical concepts.  Belief destroys all credibility, because the belief comes first, then magical and mystical conclusions ensue.