The idea of "falsification" was put into science by a Communist, who was basically anti-religion and hated the idea of having to curtail his lower compulsions because of religious rules..  He figured the only way to stop religion was to use "science" and pawn off delusional ideas as science. 

It was allowed to be introduced because society demanded proof at that time for science and absolute evidence for any scientific concept.  That means that pet theories were stricken for lack of evidence and they did not last long if they had no real evidence.  This is called "truthification" or showing that it is actually true.
This way, with "falsification" any "pseudo science" would remain forever as long as it could not be "falsified".

So, some idiot proposed this idea of "falsification" meaning that you do not have to prove science you must disprove it to get rid of it.  This is ridiculous because you cannot disprove something that cannot be tested,like Evodelusionism (a religion).  There is absolutely no way to test to see if any of it is real; and with no way to test it, no way to disprove it either. So it hangs around like a bad dream that refuses to go away.

So, falsification allows religious, mythological beliefs to perpetuate in "science".
We now have these mythological creatures that have never existed, but they are believed to be the "common ancestors" of all life on earth and other such religious nonsense.  There is no evidence of this evolution of all creatures from one life form.  It does not exist, but only in the minds of believers. 

In real science by the use of the proper scientific method, a premise, hypothesis or theory is either "True" or "Not Proven" If it is not proven is NOT the same as "false".  It is nearly (almost infinitely) impossible to disprove a theory and its premises (falsified).  But it can be repeatedly shown to be not proven over and over and over and over..........billions of times.    In order to falsify something you would have to test it by billions upon billions of iterations of tests and even after the 10,000,000,000^th time it might work in one case, so it can't ever be falsified even if it has no evidence at all as in "Evolution".  If you understand science then you would understand what I just said.

Falsification was put into science to perpetuate a mythological religious idea of evolution, that has no evidence to back it.  It has but one purpose to stop other religions and create mass hysteria of control over young people.  This is the "communist" dogma, to control the masses by fear.    Belief in God stops fear and makes people fight for the truth and against oppression.

It is a popular religion because it destroys other religions in the minds of young and weak children who "lay down" for this crap, because of cultural pressure.  It is one religion being accepted as if it was science, and it is posed against other religions.

The absolute truth is that it has no way of being proven or disproved, because it is a fantasy.

There is no DNA in fossils.  That means that fantasy can categorize fossils into any belief the brainwashed believer wants.  Many people have been put to death who were innocent, until DNA came about to show their innocence. Presumption is the foundation of belief in some brainwashed premise.

The only thing that allows those fossils to be categorized and to be falsely tied together is human emotional mental garbage beliefs that are pounded into children's heads in school, and by society that is conned into thinking this crap is science by use of media, cartoons, and cultural brainwashing.  This is in the form of brainwashed, indoctrinated, crap religion being pawned off as "science".

This idea of "falsification" allows this crap religion to be perpetuated and to be pawned off as science. As long as "falsification" continues this mythology continues in school.

That was the idea of Karl Popper, the communist and hater of God and religion.  How are people so stupid? Because they allow other people to control their thoughts.  Children are allowed to be indoctrinated by parents who have been indoctrinated and so it perpetuates with no friggin evidence.

Now, all of you!   You go do the research that I have done. Go read 20,000 or so papers on this pseudo science. You will see a "perspective" in the mind that presupposes this is "truth" in all those papers, but no evidence, only one opinion after another.

Go look at all those fossils, but without the indoctrinated believers shoving their beliefs down your brain.  Back off and become seekers of the truth.
Humans are utterly flawed and because they are easily duped by "experts" and people who are in power over their livelihood, teachers, preachers,  and using peer pressure and such force children to believe this crap before they take one class on it.
By the time a child is 6 years old they are already believing. The cartoons and "science for kids TV shows"  have fully indoctrinated them into belief in mythological creatures that never existed. They are fully prepped for brainwashing.

The classes have no contrary information in them that would stop any sane person from believing this crap.

I have asked many students if they know about the tons of contradictions in this science, and they don't. This is never taught to them in school, because it would ruin the cult like religion.
These students do not even know what inference, implication, assumption or any of the methods used on them are.
Every generation is perpetuating this because it is forced on the children, and it is child abuse to force belief in something that has no evidence to back it.

If you have any evidence for evolution, I would gladly look at it.  However, the evidence must have no opinions by anyone in it.  It must be empirical, fully tested and repeatable over and over and pass the scientific method every time: obvious and irrefutable.

I have read, talked to, and argued with Evodelusionists for a long time. Originally, I wanted to see if they actually had any evidence, because I am welcome to any real scientific study that is based on reality.

All I have seen is sideway logic, in which the belief is so strong that it is fed to the offspring of humans, like birds feeding their young from their regurgitated food.  It is a good analogy.

This means there is no evidence for evolution. There is no evidence for anything about how we got all these creatures here on earth.  It is an unknown in terms of science.

Perpetuating a screwed up belief system is a typical human weakness. 

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 24^th, 2009 at 10:36pm:

metha wrote on Dec 25^th, 2009 at 4:10am:


I don't think you understand what "falsification" really means.
You have not thought about it in detail.

It is impossible to disprove religious ideas and so Evodelusionism continues because it can't be tested one way or the other.  If you can't test something, it is just religious bovine garbage.

Listen CAREFULLY to these two videos until you understand. Falsification is the only thing that is truly false in science and it is totally worthless. Truthification is all that matters.
Falsification directly opposes the scientific inquiry methods that are the foundation of real science.  It forces idiots to test their theories and to show they have at least some validity.  Falsification allows bovine garbage to be perpetuated because it does not force these pseudo scientists to put their crap to the scientific mythology.

And besides, you say that falsification is not scientific at all, but you are trying to falsify evolution theory here.

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 26^th, 2009 at 9:21pm:


Ok, I agree that there is no way to falsify religion or delusional beliefs. But I thought you meant that falsification is not a part of real science? Or did I misunderstand?

Falsification is most certainly a part of real science. You cannot prove relativity theory. But we can seek to confirm it by trying to falsify what the theory says. Each time we have made an attempt to falsify relativity theory, we failed, and that is yet another confirmation. But we cannot say that it is absolutely true because: (1) We cannot test all possibilities and we cannot be 100% sure that our testing is flawless, (2) We do not know all the implications of relativity theory (we can always find new implications), and to test all implications, that we might not even know about, is obviously impossible.

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Indeed! This is why the argument between science and religion will never end. You can't disprove something scientifically that is entirely hypothetical and out of the realm of science - the two are like apples and oranges.

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This is why science can't disprove god.

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Really glad you don't believe the earth is flat. People who disagreed were burned, you know.

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Schools are about teaching kids to think and question; knowledge is a bonus. Some of the people I most respect are people who disagree with me but at least make the effort to really address what I say. Frankly - I'm open and willing to believe anything - you just have to prove it, first. (Ergo - I believe nothing but probabilities. )

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This is what we do as human beings. Allowing kids to participate in the harmless un-reality of Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, etc, is helping them experience, test and separate reality from fantasy, so that one day they can make a choice between the two. If you're going to force only "truth" on kids at an early age without allowing them roleplay and imagination, they won't have the ability to make the distinction. And imagination is the fuel for innovation and learning for human beings, but as with anything, moderation is key.

Did you agree with everything you were taught in school? I didn't. Thankfully, school taught me that I had the option. A series of teachers of different opinion and possessing individual bias was enough to rid any expectation of "perfection."

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There's no way to prove anything, and distinguishing between nonreality and reality is not an easy task. Welcome to life and existence on the grey scale - critical thinking is our best, and only useful resource.

Argument isn't worthwhile unless it methodically addresses its opponents' points. Argument is a two-way discussion, not a fight - fights accomplish nothing and arguments are about learning. If you are truly interested in debating, don't change the topic, and at least try to understand the points levelled at you. Hopefully this is a place of intelligent exchange and not your personal soapbox.

Good point my friend.

Rewriting the dictionary, while an admirable endeavor, isn't going to win you points.