GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 26^th, 2009 at 9:21pm:


Ok, I agree that there is no way to falsify religion or delusional beliefs. But I thought you meant that falsification is not a part of real science? Or did I misunderstand?

Falsification is most certainly a part of real science. You cannot prove relativity theory. But we can seek to confirm it by trying to falsify what the theory says. Each time we have made an attempt to falsify relativity theory, we failed, and that is yet another confirmation. But we cannot say that it is absolutely true because: (1) We cannot test all possibilities and we cannot be 100% sure that our testing is flawless, (2) We do not know all the implications of relativity theory (we can always find new implications), and to test all implications, that we might not even know about, is obviously impossible.

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Jan 9^th, 2010 at 11:40pm:


LOL, you don't think I've read Popper? If you are a scientist (which you are not), you would know that everyone else, like me, has read Popper. And he says nothing of the kind.

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You are saying that if you test a hypothesis, and the test is negative, you still believe in the hypothesis. This is not science, ludicrous.


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Falsification is simply the process of adjusting a hypothesis. It is simple the experiment itself.

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For Einstein it worked, when he falsified Newton.

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You don'e even know what abstract math is. Tell me what a category is and give me an example. Then I'll believe you.


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LOL!!! LMAO!!!! All math is motivated by real phenomenons.

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So tell me ONE single mathematical theorem that is not possible to apply to the real world. If you can't you are totally discredited, and should never be heard from again.

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All math can be applied. The math that is not applied yet, has been developed this week, and it will be applied the next week.

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And you still believe that God gave us free will (you say suddenly that you believe in God), but you do not believe that what we do can not be determined by science? LOL, how contradictory is that?

Good point my friend.

Rewriting the dictionary, while an admirable endeavor, isn't going to win you points.

The idea of "falsification" was put into science by a Communist, who was basically anti-religion and hated the idea of having to curtail his lower compulsions because of religious rules..  He figured the only way to stop religion was to use "science" and pawn off delusional ideas as science. 

It was allowed to be introduced because society demanded proof at that time for science and absolute evidence for any scientific concept.  That means that pet theories were stricken for lack of evidence and they did not last long if they had no real evidence.  This is called "truthification" or showing that it is actually true.
This way, with "falsification" any "pseudo science" would remain forever as long as it could not be "falsified".

So, some idiot proposed this idea of "falsification" meaning that you do not have to prove science you must disprove it to get rid of it.  This is ridiculous because you cannot disprove something that cannot be tested,like Evodelusionism (a religion).  There is absolutely no way to test to see if any of it is real; and with no way to test it, no way to disprove it either. So it hangs around like a bad dream that refuses to go away.

So, falsification allows religious, mythological beliefs to perpetuate in "science".
We now have these mythological creatures that have never existed, but they are believed to be the "common ancestors" of all life on earth and other such religious nonsense.  There is no evidence of this evolution of all creatures from one life form.  It does not exist, but only in the minds of believers. 

In real science by the use of the proper scientific method, a premise, hypothesis or theory is either "True" or "Not Proven" If it is not proven is NOT the same as "false".  It is nearly (almost infinitely) impossible to disprove a theory and its premises (falsified).  But it can be repeatedly shown to be not proven over and over and over and over..........billions of times.    In order to falsify something you would have to test it by billions upon billions of iterations of tests and even after the 10,000,000,000^th time it might work in one case, so it can't ever be falsified even if it has no evidence at all as in "Evolution".  If you understand science then you would understand what I just said.

Falsification was put into science to perpetuate a mythological religious idea of evolution, that has no evidence to back it.  It has but one purpose to stop other religions and create mass hysteria of control over young people.  This is the "communist" dogma, to control the masses by fear.    Belief in God stops fear and makes people fight for the truth and against oppression.

It is a popular religion because it destroys other religions in the minds of young and weak children who "lay down" for this crap, because of cultural pressure.  It is one religion being accepted as if it was science, and it is posed against other religions.

The absolute truth is that it has no way of being proven or disproved, because it is a fantasy.

There is no DNA in fossils.  That means that fantasy can categorize fossils into any belief the brainwashed believer wants.  Many people have been put to death who were innocent, until DNA came about to show their innocence. Presumption is the foundation of belief in some brainwashed premise.

The only thing that allows those fossils to be categorized and to be falsely tied together is human emotional mental garbage beliefs that are pounded into children's heads in school, and by society that is conned into thinking this crap is science by use of media, cartoons, and cultural brainwashing.  This is in the form of brainwashed, indoctrinated, crap religion being pawned off as "science".

This idea of "falsification" allows this crap religion to be perpetuated and to be pawned off as science. As long as "falsification" continues this mythology continues in school.

That was the idea of Karl Popper, the communist and hater of God and religion.  How are people so stupid? Because they allow other people to control their thoughts.  Children are allowed to be indoctrinated by parents who have been indoctrinated and so it perpetuates with no friggin evidence.

Now, all of you!   You go do the research that I have done. Go read 20,000 or so papers on this pseudo science. You will see a "perspective" in the mind that presupposes this is "truth" in all those papers, but no evidence, only one opinion after another.

Go look at all those fossils, but without the indoctrinated believers shoving their beliefs down your brain.  Back off and become seekers of the truth.
Humans are utterly flawed and because they are easily duped by "experts" and people who are in power over their livelihood, teachers, preachers,  and using peer pressure and such force children to believe this crap before they take one class on it.
By the time a child is 6 years old they are already believing. The cartoons and "science for kids TV shows"  have fully indoctrinated them into belief in mythological creatures that never existed. They are fully prepped for brainwashing.

The classes have no contrary information in them that would stop any sane person from believing this crap.

I have asked many students if they know about the tons of contradictions in this science, and they don't. This is never taught to them in school, because it would ruin the cult like religion.
These students do not even know what inference, implication, assumption or any of the methods used on them are.
Every generation is perpetuating this because it is forced on the children, and it is child abuse to force belief in something that has no evidence to back it.

If you have any evidence for evolution, I would gladly look at it.  However, the evidence must have no opinions by anyone in it.  It must be empirical, fully tested and repeatable over and over and pass the scientific method every time: obvious and irrefutable.