And let me explain how it has been proven.
Now what I am about to explain is evolution which means the gradual change of organisms over a long period of time. This is not to be confused with abiogenesis which is an entirely 'separate' theory all together. Theory in this context is considered a scientific theory and not a layman theory. The difference is, is that a scientific theory is the highest construct an idea can achieve within science while a layman theory is equated with a guess. A scientific theory is an idea or notion which explains the substantial evidence that presents itself.

Now on to explaining that evolution has been proven.
- Mutations -
Mutations are the backbone of what makes evolution work. Most people are against the term evolution and it can bring a bad vibe in most peoples mouths who are vehemently opposed to the mere idea of evolution. So lets change the word evolution to "The gradual accumulation of mutations over time."

Now mutations occur in what appears to be "randomly" in an organism. When this happens, mutations are able to change your eye color, hair color, skin color, the way you act and just about any other aspect of your character (you as an individual) that you can name off. Environment does play a roll in behavior as well as genetics does. But we wont get into that.

Now, we can witness mutations even within the human species. For instance, Scandinavian individuals are renown for having blond hair and blue eyes. Yet, the Japanese never have blond hair or blue eyes. They have brown skin, brown eyes, and usually black hair. This is the polar opposite of the regular Scandinavian individual. This is the cause of mutations. From eye color to hair color to skin color. All of it is caused by and from mutations which add up over time. If we take a look at the individual and what environment they are surrounded by, we know that their mutations are there because it helps defend against the environment. Not because it wants to, but because the mutation HAS to be that mutation if the organism expects to survive and procreate in the given environment. (procreation is an organisms ultimate goal) If the individual with a harmful mutation dies, it can't pass on that mutation to its offspring. This is the primary reason why Africans are black, native Americans are red, Japanese are brown, and Europeans are white. It is all due to mutational differences. Now if you put a group of creatures in isolation with each other where they cannot procreate and spread mutations outside of their selected group, the mutations they obtain will stay within that group. They do not magically inflict others of the same species if they do not procreate with them.

Isolation is another key to evolution. It causes mutations to be walled off from inflicting others of their race. If two of the same tribes of species in isolated parts of the world were to procreate, the mutations gathered from their isolation would be entirely different from one another. Remember, mutations can change what you look like dramatically from someone who is black to someone who is white. Mutations also 'never' reverse themselves. So when a mutation happens, it is there to stay unless another mutation removes the function of the previous mutation.

So how evolution works, is that an accumulated amount of mutations add up to equal a greater change. They then start from ground zero with the 'greater changed organism' and gather even more complex mutations. Eventually both animals, even though they derived from the same species, will look, act, feel, and taste entirely different.

So by saying that evolution isn't true is the exact same thing as saying that gradual mutations over long periods of time isn't true. If you say that the latter isn't true, you are also saying that mutations do not exist.

There is no mechanism in evolution which dictates that sex chromosomes do not mutate or change. The notion of species is an entirely human construct to explain animals that can't breed together. They are not 'all together different' from any other animal on Earth.

Once a creature is inflicted with too many mutations where it can't be distinguishable from others that share a same ancestor, they wont be able to breed with those animals any longer.

To finish this long post up, evolution also does not work by a static amount of change. If a creature survives in an unchanging environment, the chances are, that creature will not evolve. If the environment is 'always' changing however, that creature has a greater chance of evolving.

I hope I cleared some thing up.

I am going to highlight every statment you made that was simply dumb ass opinions and assumptions from belief that has no evidence to back it.  You cannot just believe things without absolute evidence to back it.  If you can prove absolutely any of them, please do so.

Maelstrom wrote on Jan 14^th, 2010 at 10:25pm:


What we have in all of the real evidence is creatures show up, they reamain the same morphology for up to 125,000,000 years, go extinct or are still here as the same creature.

The only thing shown in DNA, fossils, and in speciation is creatures come in with genetic coding from their ancestors, adapt to poisons and environment,like food and weather, and if they breed after they adapt they pass on some of that "protection" from poisons or adaptations like teeth, to the species.  If the poisons are no longer there, those adaptations will go away as not needed for survival as the same creatures.
When the limits of that genome is met in the environment they go extinct.

Being separate species is not a prerequisite for not being able to breed. We have evidence of creatures with genetic changes that make them a separate species and they can still breed and produce viable offspring after 2 million years of separation ( by the messed up radiometric dating system based on logical fallacies).

There is nothing else in evidence.

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Jan 15^th, 2010 at 12:00pm:


But there are no such thing as "probability". You have justed argued that there is no such thing as probability, and that nothing is random! IF something happens with a probability, then something has to be random, since you cannot predict it. You are full of contradictions.

metha wrote on Jan 15^th, 2010 at 12:35pm:

This has nothing to do with random. Just stop!

It is highly probable that the Llama will revert and adapt backwards to the size and shape of the Camel because of the dry hot climate and the need for long legs.  This cannot be refuted and it holds with all the evidence we have so far.

Creatures only adapt to survive as the same creature! Even the most genetically changed creatures are not a new genus, like all the individual families of mice. They are still mice!
A horse is a horse of course. A small horse that becomes a big horse is still a horse.  It did not evolve.

http://www.living-fossils.com/2_1.php
Have you heard of this guy: harun yahya

He has a lot more living fossils in his information.

Maelstrom wrote on Jan 15^th, 2010 at 6:09pm:


As soon as you start with the insults and straw man, you have given full approval to be intellectually destroyed and called all sorts of names.  I have no patience for people who pretend to be nice, while they are really just dumb weak humans with deeply held delusional beliefs.

Your statements are contrary to the evidence, as usual.  There is no evolution shown in DNA.  The evidence show many thousands of DNA differences in humans over a life time.  If they breed with those changes, it can be passed down.  Those changes are strictly for humans to survive as the same species.  If you see programming for evolution you are nuts. There is only programming for survival as the same creature. 

Bacteria never has evolved in all the time we have known about bacteria. It has always remained bacteria.  Don't you know that? I have posted several examples for you to look at on this site.

What is the magical process that causes creatures to break the boundaries of their genetics? 
Where is your absolute, irrefutable evidence, that has no opinions in it.  I do not accept opinions from delusional believers and call that fact. 
Why do you accept religious mystical causes as if they were real?
There is no evidence for evolution anywhere on this earth. No fish has come out of the water and started breathing air. I have looked at all the so called evidence, but it is nothing but belief projected on fossils. Witt no tissue, DNA, it is a wast of time.
If this process were real, you would see it now.  No reptile has ever become a mammal or a bird. There is absolutely no evidence of this on this planet.  If this were true there would be billions of fossils in transitional forms and these fossils would be all over right now. 

Listen carefully: If evolution is true there would be evidence of it now in the living creatures on earth.  You would see partial bones, partial wings, and all the feculence you believe in, if it was true.

We have already established that fossilization is pretty common for creatures on the land.

You are an idiot, I don't care what religion you have, if you believe in evolution you are technically insane.

You need to realize that you are brainwashed with crap pseudo science and it ruins any possibility for you to be a free thinker.

How is it possible for a human in less than 20 years to have over 30,000 changes showing the genome's trying to survive before lung cancer takes their life. All of the evidence from the study of DNA says the same thing.  Creatures are meant to survive until the environment stops them.

Everything that you wrote has almost nothing in common with this idea of evolution.  You talk about genetics and races, like it means something.  If they are all still humans, then no evolution has taken place. 

Maelstrom wrote on Jan 16^th, 2010 at 12:49am:


So much nonsense. Where do I start.

I am not religious, you f**king evotard! That is the first of your f**king straw man arguments.

You don't have a f**king clue about anything in life and you are dishonest with yourself.

Since when has the scientific community has found the understanding of the entire universe and knows all there is to know. It is a logical fallacy to use the idea that scientists are nothing more than weak and stupid feeble minded humans who can barley wipe there asses.  As soon as you give your life over to other people they own your ass and you become their slave, like a f**king weak groveling slave.

The amount of knowledge the total of humanity has is like a tiny bird turd in the ocean.  Turd = human knowledge and Ocean sort of = to the unverse.

You think that science is advanced when they actually have religious nonsense in their dogma?

You posted links to a f**king site with no evidence and only opinions.  I have read pretty much all of that logical fallacy nonsense.  You don't see it as nonsense because you are stupid and gullible and believe those weak humans and their religious dogma.

Mudskippers are fully functioning not transitional fish that can move on land. This is no evidence of any fish that made any transition to become a mudskipper. You fuking idiot!

"Evolution is not like pokemon." 
You are really as stupid as you seem.  I pity you.  You are so f**king owned by this garbage that you don't exist anymore.


"Humans wont evolve into various species because we are not isolated from one another."
Do you understand that you have absolutely no evidence for this statement, yet you believe?  Is it possible for a human to be more stupid than you?  The reason why there is no human evolution shown is because it never happened in evidence. I have looked and looked at all the evidence on this in great detail, yet there is absolutely no evidence for human evolution.

Your garbage religion is pseudo science with no evidence, and yet you believe.  You are so delusional and have no f**king brains, so much so that you will most likely go to your old age (if you make it) and death bed with all your f**king delusions in tact. That is really a sad use of a life.

I have found Evodelusionists to be severely brainwashed, gullible and stupid.  I am sorry but I can only take so much of this garbage in one day.

They think things like Ivy league means "God" to them when it is a politically run institution with victims playing the rolls of teachers and students.

Have any of you actually been to Berkley?  There is no credibility give to any religious institution.  I used to live in the same neighborhood, when I lived in Oakland.