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Re: Here is some reality check for you!
Reply #30 - Dec 22^nd, 2009 at 9:03am

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2009 at 8:51am:

Who told you that science does not deal in absolute evidence? Why did you drop your guard over your intelligence and believe them?

You have absolutely no clue about the science, do you? If there were something "absolute" in it, there would be no more research, however, in every science every is constantly discovered, re-discovered, refined and fine-tuned. We don't know everything, and it would be absolutely idiotic to even imagine, that we do. There is always new things to discover, find and figure out. THAT is what science is all about.

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Re: Here is some reality check for you!
Reply #31 - Dec 22^nd, 2009 at 9:19am

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2009 at 8:51am:

Who told you that science does not deal in absolute evidence? Why did you drop your guard over your intelligence and believe them?

Nobody, I read a large number of peer reviewed articles and noted that none referred to proof. The conclusion I drew was that proof was not a part of science. When I contemplated this I realised that the scientific method relies on falsification, not proof, and then it fit into place.

This notion is easy to disabuse me of. I gave you the chance. I asked for you to present any scientific paper, published in any journal, from the last 50 or so years, in which the authors referred to their conclusions as being absolutely proven.

In other words, I gave you an opporunity to provide me with the slightest sliver of evidence to back up your claim. You have not yet done so, and so by your own method of reasoning, I have dismissed it.

So, put up or shut up. Show me the evidence that science has ever dealt with proof.

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Re: Here is some reality check for you!
Reply #32 - Dec 24^th, 2009 at 4:52pm

oh_noes wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2009 at 9:19am:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2009 at 8:51am:

Who told you that science does not deal in absolute evidence? Why did you drop your guard over your intelligence and believe them?

Nobody, I read a large number of peer reviewed articles and noted that none referred to proof. The conclusion I drew was that proof was not a part of science. When I contemplated this I realised that the scientific method relies on falsification, not proof, and then it fit into place.

This notion is easy to disabuse me of. I gave you the chance. I asked for you to present any scientific paper, published in any journal, from the last 50 or so years, in which the authors referred to their conclusions as being absolutely proven.

In other words, I gave you an opporunity to provide me with the slightest sliver of evidence to back up your claim. You have not yet done so, and so by your own method of reasoning, I have dismissed it.

So, put up or shut up. Show me the evidence that science has ever dealt with proof.

So, you back up your screwed up religious beliefs with brainwashed peers?

Don't you realize that historically humans are wrong 100% of the time when they have no evidence to back up belief?

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Re: Here is some reality check for you!
Reply #33 - Dec 24^th, 2009 at 4:56pm

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 24^th, 2009 at 4:52pm:

oh_noes wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2009 at 9:19am:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2009 at 8:51am:

Who told you that science does not deal in absolute evidence? Why did you drop your guard over your intelligence and believe them?

Nobody, I read a large number of peer reviewed articles and noted that none referred to proof. The conclusion I drew was that proof was not a part of science. When I contemplated this I realised that the scientific method relies on falsification, not proof, and then it fit into place.

This notion is easy to disabuse me of. I gave you the chance. I asked for you to present any scientific paper, published in any journal, from the last 50 or so years, in which the authors referred to their conclusions as being absolutely proven.

In other words, I gave you an opporunity to provide me with the slightest sliver of evidence to back up your claim. You have not yet done so, and so by your own method of reasoning, I have dismissed it.

So, put up or shut up. Show me the evidence that science has ever dealt with proof.

So, you back up your screwed up religious beliefs with brainwashed peers?

Don't you realize that historically humans are wrong 100% of the time when they have no evidence to back up belief?

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Reply #34 - Dec 24^th, 2009 at 4:56pm

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 24^th, 2009 at 4:52pm:

Don't you realize that historically humans are wrong 100% of the time when they have no evidence to back up belief?

And to date you are yet to produce a single scrap of evidence that science does now or ever will deal with proof. So what does that make you?

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Reply #36 - Dec 24^th, 2009 at 6:52pm

oh_noes wrote on Dec 24^th, 2009 at 4:56pm:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 24^th, 2009 at 4:52pm:

Don't you realize that historically humans are wrong 100% of the time when they have no evidence to back up belief?

And to date you are yet to produce a single scrap of evidence that science does now or ever will deal with proof. So what does that make you?

I know your science deals with make believe. That it your problem and why you can't show me any real evidence for evolution. You don't have any. All you have is opinions from "experts" = ex spurts. There is no such thing as an expert in a fantasy. Don't you know that?

When you can produce real evidence that has no other plausibility, and is obvious, with NO opinions, then you can call yourself a scientist, before then you are an Evodelusionists; a delusional believer in fantasy.

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Reply #37 - Dec 24^th, 2009 at 7:06pm

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 24^th, 2009 at 6:52pm:

oh_noes wrote on Dec 24^th, 2009 at 4:56pm:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 24^th, 2009 at 4:52pm:

Don't you realize that historically humans are wrong 100% of the time when they have no evidence to back up belief?

And to date you are yet to produce a single scrap of evidence that science does now or ever will deal with proof. So what does that make you?

I know your science deals with make believe.

Sure you do...

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2009 at 9:07am:

OH! Boy! I'll bet you creamed your pants on that one.
Diamond are no longer carbon, they are diamonds. Moron!

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oh_noes Full Member Offline Seek Truth! Doubt those who find it. Posts: 175	Re: Here is some reality check for you! Reply #39 - Dec 25^th, 2009 at 12:04pm I've answered that. Can you point me to a source of evidence to validate the point I queried in my last post please.
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GoodScienceForYou YaBB Administrator Offline The obvious isn't obvious until it is obvious Posts: 1361 United States Gender:	Re: Here is some reality check for you! Reply #40 - Dec 26^th, 2009 at 2:09pm oh_noes wrote on Dec 25^th, 2009 at 12:04pm: I've answered that. Can you point me to a source of evidence to validate the point I queried in my last post please. You only cite opinions from the high priests with nothing at all to back them. That is the problem. A science based on opinions is not science.
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oh_noes Full Member Offline Seek Truth! Doubt those who find it. Posts: 175	Re: Here is some reality check for you! Reply #41 - Dec 26^th, 2009 at 2:20pm so that would be a no then.
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Re: Here is some reality check for you!
Reply #42 - Dec 27^th, 2009 at 11:01am

glowingape wrote on Dec 20^th, 2009 at 12:29pm:

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 19^th, 2009 at 11:38pm:

Seekers of the truth are not concerned with religious beliefs.

No, they aren't. If there is a megalomaniacal jealous deity that throw people in hell, if you just think that he doesn't exists, that would make practically no difference in scientific community whatsoever. Well, asides of the fact that we should do whatever "it" says...

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The truth has nothing to do with God. The "truth" may or may not be connected to God. Altho I find it interesting, that you equate a magical being, that poofs stuff out of nothing with something like "truth". It's even funnier, that you are bringing it up, since you don't believe in it? If you don't believe in it, how can you bring it up?

There rest is just raving garbage, which I think it's something completely irrelevant for this topic.

I personally think you are the magical, mystical religious nutcase on here.

I go wit real science that has actual evidence. You seem to go with religious slogans in your pseudo science.

You and all the believer in this bovine garbage religion will be mocked in future generations for being "primitive", "ignorant", and poor excuses for scientists. That is you legacy for believing in things that have no evidence.

By the way, have you actually studied photosynthesis in bacteria?

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Re: Here is some reality check for you!
Reply #43 - Dec 27^th, 2009 at 11:15am

GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 27^th, 2009 at 11:01am:

I go wit real science that has actual evidence. You seem to go with religious slogans in your pseudo science.

No you don't. You don't even know the meaning of the term 'mutation' (see my sig). All your posts are permeated by 'slogans' and 'pseudo-science', which, given your above statements, makes you a lolcow.

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GoodScienceForYou YaBB Administrator Offline The obvious isn't obvious until it is obvious Posts: 1361 United States Gender:	Re: Here is some reality check for you! Reply #44 - Dec 27^th, 2009 at 11:29am "The answer is that there is no need for an alternative theory if the one you have is no frigging good and leads to nowhere as the theory of evolution." Please tell me if there is anything illogical about that statement? Give it a shot.
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