metha wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 7:25pm:GoodScienceForYou wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 7:11pm:You do not know the cause, so you call it random.
No, that is "seamingly random", or the same as complexity.
Quote:I personally don't accept anything that is not absolutely proven. That is why I am sane. I was tested sane, with no mental problems and I have an IQ over 180.
That is cool. I was also tested with an IQ of 192. First we were tested with a test that went to 144, but I was sent to Switzerland for further testing. Maybe I can have a nice discussion with you.
Quote:The differences in twins is not some random "accident".
How?
Quote:How well would you do if your liver turned into slime, or your eyes started growing out of their sockets, or you have a huge hole in your bowels?
Oo, that would be awful.
Quote:Think about this. It is against the laws of physics to have random changes to an organic structure. Everything is cause and effect.
Why is that against the law of physics?
However, I agree with you that evolution isn't true. I just don't agree with you on randomness and twins. I think that alterations in DNA can happen without changes to the phenotype. I believe things popped into existence somehow. Would like to discuss som issues about disproving the theory sometime.
There is no such thing as seemingly random, apparently random, or "complexity" random.
There is no random in the universe, there is only cause and effect.
Nothing is the cause of itself.
If you can see one event that causes another, then you know there is no random.
If you can see ten events that all have results, then there is no random.
If you can see the cause of 100 events and the results then you know there is no random.
If you can see a billion events and look at each one by the laws of physics you know there is no random.
There is only cause and effect. Random does not exist.
It is because of the feebleness of the human mind (average human mind) that crap like randomness becomes a religious belief. All religious beliefs need to be removed from science.
There is no such thing as "random mutations" in DNA. They are neither "random" nor are the "mutations" until you can prove there is no creature in the genealogy with that DNA pattern. Random DNA is death. There is no other possibility.
If one mistake in a DNA base pare can cause severe illness, then 100 or more is certain death.
DNA is not the cause of itself. Nothing is the cause of itself in physical forms.
When you say you "see" apparent random, when you have no idea what the cause is, only shows ignorance of the laws of science that hold the universe together.
There are no magical or mystical causes in this world. But because humans do not have the tools to see all the causes, with their feeble minds, they make up mystical and magical reasons that violate the laws of science.
If you allow magical causes in your mind an accept them, it retards you. If you are not seeking the truth, and recognized your own human limitations, then you start filling in the blanks with fantasy, beliefs. It is a human problem to make up religious reasons for events they don't understand.
In the case of Evolution (Evodelusion religion) they make up stories of mystical processes, and magical reasons, base on mythological HEMG.