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MarDuk Ex Member	Re: Randomness Reply #30 - Dec 11^th, 2009 at 9:17pm Where is the source code you liar?
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MarDuk Ex Member	Re: Randomness Reply #32 - Dec 11^th, 2009 at 11:25pm Where is the source code you liar?
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Re: Randomness
Reply #33 - Dec 12^th, 2009 at 12:34am

The source code is what you can't see.

We know that random is not a physical possibility.

We know that because there is no way possible for DNA to be random, without instant death, that this DNA comes from coding information passed on from the parents to the offspring.
There is ABSOLUTELY no other way for this DNA to be functional and not kill or just stop life from occurring at all in offspring.

DNA can never be the cause of itself. This is a law of physics. Just as you are not the cause of yourself.

Anything that has physical existence is not the cause of itself.

So, you believe in fairy tales of utter logical fallacies.

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Re: Randomness
Reply #34 - Dec 12^th, 2009 at 11:28am

Now, why don't you subject your DNA to random changes?

Anyone who has ever programmed computers, knows that one "letter" off in the code will cause it to fail. The computer will lock up and have to be rebooted.
I know because I have had the horrible problem of finding that one letter in the programming that caused programs to lock up. I have had to have other programmers look at it to see if they can see it. All you need is one "if" "then" code to be off one letter and it stops.
How the hell do you think the human organism can stand to have random coding?

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Reply #35 - Dec 12^th, 2009 at 11:41am

LMAO
Your actually using Berlinski as evidence Cheesy

Oh dear. You really are a creo in disguise aren't you. Probably going to claim he isn't religious too, while ignoring his connections to the DI.

oh, and err.

That video is just mathodelusionist nonsense, take off your blinkers and you will see the truth.
Mathodelusionist nonsense has lied to you and closed your mind.

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oh_noes Full Member Offline Seek Truth! Doubt those who find it. Posts: 175	Re: Randomness Reply #36 - Dec 12^th, 2009 at 11:41am Oh, as for subjecting my DNA to random changes, I did, when I was born. About 150 of them. My DNA seems to have arranged itself perfectly adequatly in order to expose your nonsense time and again.
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Re: Randomness
Reply #37 - Dec 12^th, 2009 at 12:35pm

oh_noes wrote on Dec 12^th, 2009 at 11:41am:

Oh, as for subjecting my DNA to random changes, I did, when I was born. About 150 of them. My DNA seems to have arranged itself perfectly adequatly in order to expose your nonsense time and again.

I feel sorry for you. I really hope you can get free of this extreme limitation on your intelligence.

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Re: Randomness
Reply #38 - Dec 12^th, 2009 at 12:40pm

oh_noes wrote on Dec 12^th, 2009 at 11:41am:

LMAO
Your actually using Berlinski as evidence Cheesy

Oh dear. You really are a creo in disguise aren't you. Probably going to claim he isn't religious too, while ignoring his connections to the DI.

oh, and err.

That video is just mathodelusionist nonsense, take off your blinkers and you will see the truth.
Mathodelusionist nonsense has lied to you and closed your mind.

* oh_noes locks the thread.

I don't always agree with his approach, but this one is good.

Random is not even a scientific possibility. And you believe in it, because without this fairy tale belief your whole BS theory falls apart fast.

If you were to examine every premise buy the scientific method, the whole thing falls apart.

That is why you are a coward to expose your beliefs in public.

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oh_noes Full Member Offline Seek Truth! Doubt those who find it. Posts: 175	Re: Randomness Reply #39 - Dec 12^th, 2009 at 1:27pm Can you point to any post, in any thread, from any account, in which I have said true randomness exists in the world? Anywhere, at any time? You are deluded to the point where you think I have said things I have not.
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Re: Randomness
Reply #40 - Dec 12^th, 2009 at 3:55pm

oh_noes wrote on Dec 12^th, 2009 at 1:27pm:

Can you point to any post, in any thread, from any account, in which I have said true randomness exists in the world?
Anywhere, at any time?

You are deluded to the point where you think I have said things I have not.

Are you starting to wake up? How much does it take to get you into reality?

There is no random, no apparent random, " Religious visions" of random either. There is only cause and effects and structures in genetics that are passed down.
The only thing that is obvious is a need to survive in creatures, not a need to evolve. All I have ever seen in all the "studies" which are not based on scientific inquiry is creatures needing to survive, so they make adaptations in order to do that. When they can no longer survive as that creature, that genetic structure, they go extinct. That is a law shown in all the evidence. There is no such thing as genetic instability. There is only genetic structures that vary from creature to creature based on the make up of the creature and the environment.

Nothing is the cause of itself.

DNA coding has a cause and it is not some dumb ass belief in random mutations. Only an idiot would believe such crap that goes against the laws of science.

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oh_noes Full Member Offline Seek Truth! Doubt those who find it. Posts: 175	Re: Randomness Reply #41 - Dec 12^th, 2009 at 4:28pm What word describes my perception of a process for which I currently cannot determine the outcome?
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oh_noes Full Member Offline Seek Truth! Doubt those who find it. Posts: 175	Re: Randomness Reply #42 - Dec 12^th, 2009 at 5:01pm Perhaps I should have phrased that as "cannot discern a pattern from the observed outcomes."
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GoodScienceForYou YaBB Administrator Offline The obvious isn't obvious until it is obvious Posts: 1361 United States Gender:	Re: Randomness Reply #43 - Dec 12^th, 2009 at 5:48pm oh_noes wrote on Dec 12^th, 2009 at 4:28pm: What word describes my perception of a process for which I currently cannot determine the outcome? Unknown! Educated? Did you go to college? I think you are looking in the wrong place for your education and information.
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GoodScienceForYou YaBB Administrator Offline The obvious isn't obvious until it is obvious Posts: 1361 United States Gender:	Re: Randomness Reply #44 - Dec 12^th, 2009 at 5:50pm oh_noes wrote on Dec 12^th, 2009 at 5:01pm: Perhaps I should have phrased that as "cannot discern a pattern from the observed outcomes." Unknown to you! So, don't project your unproven beliefs on it.
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