MajorAtheist wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 8:15am:metha wrote on Feb 4th, 2010 at 4:14am:He doesn't understand Einstein, that much I figured. Then I wanted to know if I should spend more time here or not, so I put out a very, very simple physics example for him to figure out (if he is into physics, it should have been easy), but he didn't get it at all. His comments had nothing to do with the example, and he did not even see what the example had to do with reality. It had everything to do with reality, of course, but I used words they use in physics. His response was: This is just abstract math and has nothing to do with reality. I got my question answered: He doesn't understand physics - not even a simple example like that, where the simplicity and reality in the example was just (just a little) hidden in the words I chose to write down the example.To say that Fourier transforms has nothing to do with reality (only electrical physics), exposed him, and so I stopped discussing and found something much better.
EXACTLY metha, it is a classic example of the Religious people RUNNING from the issues that they know will prove them wrong.
It is like proving the grass is green by telling someone to look down and investigate themselves, but YET GSFY would only wait until winter to investigate your claim. Then they can only say the grass is brown and you were not only wrong, but you were lying. LOL
When it comes to beliefs, you should have only 3 reasons for NOT being able to believe:
1. I am wrong, which you should be able to show for it is your reason for not believing.
2. You don't understand what I am trying to teach you; therefore you dont understand enough to believe.
3. You are fearful of changing your beliefs; usually because God will punish you if you don't beleive in him.
So, since GSFY can't/doesn't believe me................I have asked him to show me:
1. Where I am wrong, for certainly he can show me. If he can't show me then he has no reason to not believe me.
2. Maybe he is too stupid to understand in the first place.
3. Maybe his God will punish him if he DISbelieves in HIM.(You know like a flood or something.....lol)
Well, he has failed to show me where I am wrong.
I am starting to think he is stupid.
Or I am starting to think he is just too scared of his very own God!
I hope for his own Sake he proves that his reason for not believing me is FEAR, for I will only be left with STUPIDITY!
As far as I can tell you are a mass of conflicting data and inconsistency, really confused. You are not able to comprehend much of what I teach. You change the image of the world to fit your beliefs and you believe in mystical things that are not and have never been in reality. That is a religion and because it is disguised as science as this sort of feculence has been for centuries, you are prone to be a cult member. You cannot be free until you get free of other people's delusional nonsense. This is why I have no religion and only go with what has been shown to me over and over and over.
You think that I believe in God's punishment. All the evidence points to science and events based on pure logic.
When you harm other people, that is energy that will come back on you. I have seen this many times in my life and have documented examples of it.
Just recently the company who sued me for my statements about how they mistreat customers and lie to them for profits is now closed. All I did was to tell them to treat people with respect and to try to be good to their customers, and that what they do is to degrade my industry and lower the whole reputation of my industry. All of which is documented as true with thousands upon thousand of customer complaints, F ratings with the BBB. There was no magic in the fact that they folded and will continue to fold all of their outlets across the country, because of greed and lies. It all comes back. It is the laws of science in action.
You basically are the cause of your own suffering by the laws of science. "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction." The problem is your mind is so weak that you can't see how your actions radiate out from you and come back to you. You think there is luck and crap like that, but it is really just how the events, energies, masses momentum, etc are operation at that moment.
Magical thinking is religious. Believing in luck is religious. Believing in magical processes that cause fish to become humans over some immense time is ridiculous magical beliefs, religious beliefs.
When you do harm to a really good person, who has the ability to help many people or to even help you, you are actually doing harm to yourself equal to how much you impede that good persons progress. Many good people have been murdered, because you don't see the results to the murderers and you think they got away with it. Just go study the life of any of them. Their whole life is a living hell.
In order to know what is right and wrong in life, you must be completely honest with yourself. If you are not then you live in apparent random chaos and fear. Your delusions cannot keep you from harming yourself. They are the cause of doing stupid things to one another that cause you to suffer.
When you don't have a clue what you are doing, the first thing to do is admit it.
It is even used in 12 step programs to get people free from self destructive behavior. The first is to admit how weak, out of control and stupid you are. Then be absolutely honest with yourself.
That means you never lie to yourself or anyone else. And if you don't know what the heck you are talking about, keep your mouth shut and don't spread you dumb ass beliefs.
If you have doubts about anything, then it is not real. There is you best clue. Follow those doubts, because they are based on a part of you who actually understands the truth.
Attacking my character, will get you no where, but you will have people attacking your character, for sure in the future.
When people come up against the truth and it hurts their egos, it is up to them to allow changes. Just like you walked into the door of delusional beliefs, and became the proud owner of nonsense and you surround yourself with other believers in nonsense, you can leave this crowd of delusional people and walk out the door you came in from.
Before you were coerced into this stupid religion you were clear of it at some point. You can get clear of it now. It really is easy. Stop hanging around with those who reinforce this crap in your head for a while and see what happens.
If you want to be free of nonsense, you need to go to the "NEUTRAL ZONE" of no beliefs in anything that is not comprehend-able to you in the first place. Get you mind back from all those conflicting pieces of crap that are not real. Get clear of ignorance.
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